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Re:Debian 10 “Buster” Released by beefhash on Sunday July 07, 2019 @04:13AM (#20374083)
I'm honestly astounded by how much fallout is generated by GNOME alone: GNOME strongly integrating with systemd pushing systemd itself[1] onto major distributions, now GNOME forcing Wayland.

Hell, RHEL even dropped KDE support entirely in version 8.

I'm not saying change is inherently bad, but I'm amazed how much change is caused by a single project.

[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/10/msg00578.html

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Re:Debian 10 “Buster” Released by dependenttypes on Sunday July 07, 2019 @04:42AM (#20374166)
GNOME is not even that good even, not from a programming perspective (glib/gobject/gtk hell) nor from a usability perspective (features being removed left and right, high memory usage, etc). I personally think that tiling WMs do it way better, but even things like openbox and KDE are just more usable than GNOME. I am surprised that it is still the default in so many distros, something related to tradition i presume?
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Re:Debian 10 “Buster” Released by abacadaba on Sunday July 07, 2019 @08:14AM (#20374735)
> something related to tradition i presume?

If only there were some sort of (M) Advanced Traditional Environment they could default to instead..

disclaimer: i probably haven't given any recent gnome version a fair shot

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