Re:Debian 10 “Buster” Released
by BearOso on Saturday July 06, 2019 @09:47PM
(#20373125)
It’s still not ready, especially the KDE and GNOME situations. Things just aren’t very reliable. Mouse events are dropped and things like menus respond inconsistently. The XWayland layer doesn’t work smoothly, so X11 games and browsers aren’t very performant. Without that, there’s no transition layer, so it’s a cold-turkey jump to Wayland applications, of which there aren’t many.
I think starting fresh from a Weston or wlroots base is the only way we’re going to get decent desktop environments. GNOME and KDE are “translating” the X11 stuff over to Wayland methodology, but that’s not going very quickly.
It’s great that Debian is leaving the old X11 within arms reach. This is a very pragmatic way of pushing Wayland a bit while not screwing over the users.
Re:Debian 10 “Buster” Released
by Sir_Cmpwn on Saturday July 06, 2019 @09:55PM
(#20373152)
I don't think you'll have much luck with Weston, it's not really designed to be used as a base (libweston is tacked on and the devs acknowledge that it's not great).
I think starting fresh from a Weston or wlroots base is the only way we’re going to get decent desktop environments. GNOME and KDE are “translating” the X11 stuff over to Wayland methodology, but that’s not going very quickly.
It’s great that Debian is leaving the old X11 within arms reach. This is a very pragmatic way of pushing Wayland a bit while not screwing over the users.