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Re:Zharkova solar-planetary theory predicting Grand Solar Mi... by masta on Thursday July 04, 2019 @05:40PM (#20358027)
The whole solar cycle argument has been well studied and understood, it's effects are minimal on the climate. But still, this is used by anthroposophic climate change deniers over and over again.
Re:Zharkova solar-planetary theory predicting Grand Solar Mi... by ghthor on Thursday July 04, 2019 @05:57PM (#20358126)
I think you're denying the evidence that partical forcing from coronal hole streams and CMEs have significant effects on climate.
Re:Zharkova solar-planetary theory predicting Grand Solar Mi... by masta on Thursday July 04, 2019 @06:32PM (#20358320)
There is no evidence of a significant effect. Especially compared to the effects of the added CO2 in the atmosphere.
Re:Zharkova solar-planetary theory predicting Grand Solar Mi... by ghthor on Thursday July 04, 2019 @09:50PM (#20359326)
Dr Kong Pop UYen has published a paper or 2 showing significant correlation between solar flare, CME and coronal hole stream impacts and intensification of tropical storms.

And that's just the beginning, if you look with an open mind you will fine many quality scientists questioning this status quo.

Re:Zharkova solar-planetary theory predicting Grand Solar Mi... by b_tterc_p on Thursday July 04, 2019 @10:40PM (#20359459)
> And that's just the beginning, if you look with an open mind you will fine many quality scientists questioning this status quo.

This is an interesting twist on the balance fallacy (issue has two sides, so each side has merit) in that you’re implying refusal to acknowledge the other side is a lack of an open mind.

Someone suggesting solar flares can impact tropical storms is not a significant fact in the claim you’re refuting.

Re:Zharkova solar-planetary theory predicting Grand Solar Mi... by olivermarks on Thursday July 04, 2019 @06:44PM (#20358391)
http://www.weatheraction.com Piers Corbyn (UK Labour party leader Jeremy's brother) would disagree with your opinion...https://youtu.be/LlK2_t66wQI
Re:Zharkova solar-planetary theory predicting Grand Solar Mi... by b_tterc_p on Thursday July 04, 2019 @10:48PM (#20359492)
That feels like a really weird appeal to authority that’s not really compelling even from a fallacious point of view.

The website is just low quality climate change denialism. Amusingly low quality tbh. Like Fox News but with no budget.

Re:Zharkova solar-planetary theory predicting Grand Solar Mi... by olivermarks on Friday July 05, 2019 @11:11AM (#20363089)
Not quite sure what your point is here but worth pointing out Corbyn's politics which are left of center. I don't think your 'Fox News' ideas apply here, but agree it's an extremely low budget website with zero design sensibility as befits a shoestring operation. His position is that powerful oligarchs and oil companies are behind 'human created climate change' taxation politics, and that his lifetime in academia studying the sun's influence on earth climate makes him a sceptic of the cabal of scientists pushing the 'climate change' agenda. I don't necessarily agree with him but thought I'd point that out... https://youtu.be/LlK2_t66wQI?t=1586 <Corbyn's ideas about who is behind climate change political pressure
Re:Zharkova solar-planetary theory predicting Grand Solar Mi... by b_tterc_p on Friday July 05, 2019 @01:16PM (#20364113)
Right, you seem to be implying that because he is the brother of someone on the left that he’s trustworthy as not a right wing whacko.

Some choice quotes from the site:

> DONATE Scientists4Truth via OnLine shop+Donate link Are you a twitter follower / fb friend of PiersCorbyn / WeatherAction and the fight for accountability in Science and politics - to defeat the climate hoax and save Brexit?

> The BBC should pay for their imbalance and brainwashing by compensating the tens of £millions losses suffered by business and the travelling public from #XR throttling of London working life.

Wikipedia also mentions that he claims the sun can predict earthquakes. He’s missing a few marbles.

Re:Zharkova solar-planetary theory predicting Grand Solar Mi... by olivermarks on Friday July 05, 2019 @03:05PM (#20364938)
Regarding the English referendum vote to leave the European Union, Corbyn is part of Labour leave, which is a left wing organization. https://www.newstatesman.com/2016/04/piers-corbyn-interview-... Thanks for the wikipedia mention, I hadn't realized he'd had a publicly listed business which essentially gambled on near term climate predictions based on his methodology. As a climate hysteria fence sitter, I find his allegations and claims interesting.
Re:Zharkova solar-planetary theory predicting Grand Solar Mi... by novalis78 on Thursday July 04, 2019 @05:26PM (#20357944)
That’s quite the lookout. Is there a good book / resources on these long solar cycles?
Re:Zharkova solar-planetary theory predicting Grand Solar Mi... by ghthor on Thursday July 04, 2019 @05:58PM (#20358137)
The Weathermans Guide to the Sun is a good place to get started on the new ways were identifying how the sun is the min driver of climate change.
Re:Zharkova solar-planetary theory predicting Grand Solar Mi... by olivermarks on Thursday July 04, 2019 @06:31PM (#20358314)
Re:Zharkova solar-planetary theory predicting Grand Solar Mi... by undoware on Thursday July 04, 2019 @05:34PM (#20357992)
HN, HN, HN.

This is a climate change denialist blog.

I am not a scientist and cannot effectively assess Zharkova's claims directly, but I can't help but notice the sidebar (pasted below). About 4 out of every 5 links are basically FUD:

    Alan Carlin: Unilateral US Decarbonization Could Have Serious Economic Consequences
    More Failed Predictions: May Was The Second Wettest Month In US History
    Natascha Engel: UK’s Net-Zero Carbon Target Is Reckless And Unrealistic 
    Now 20 years with no trend in ice breakup dates for Western Hudson Bay polar bears
    ‘Triple whammy’ threatens climate progress, says BBC News
    Zharkova uses solar-planetary theory in new paper predicting Earth temperature rise to 2600 following imminent Grand Solar Minimum
    Big-Idea Energy Alternatives Are Costly And Puny
    Mercury climbs as Europe braces for summer scorcher
    Scientists map huge undersea fresh-water aquifer off US Northeast
    Experts say there is no ‘climate emergency’
    New York State’s Energy Future: Lighting Candles?
    UK Minister suspended after grabbing climate activist
    Mysterious Moisture in the Mesosphere
    Record-Setting Noctilucent Clouds
    UK commits to ‘net zero’ emissions by 2050
Top Posts

    Study: Tesla car battery production releases as much CO2 as 8 years of driving on petrol
    Zharkova uses solar-planetary theory in new paper predicting Earth temperature rise to 2600 following imminent Grand Solar Minimum
    Alan Carlin: Unilateral US Decarbonization Could Have Serious Economic Consequences
    Discovery of massive volcanic CO2 emissions puts damper on global warming theory
    A remarkable discovery: All Solar system periods fit the Fibonacci series and the Golden Ratio. Why Phi?
    Uncertainty: The origin of the increase in Atmospheric CO2
    Tom Van Flandern: Was the planet Mercury once a moon of Venus?
    Back to basics 2: Lapse rates and atmospheric stability
    About me
    Germany’s Renewable Energy Fail: German CO2 Emissions 10 Times Higher than Nuclear-Powered France



    Alan Carlin: Unilateral US Decarbonization Could Have Serious Economic Consequences
    More Failed Predictions: May Was The Second Wettest Month In US History
    Natascha Engel: UK’s Net-Zero Carbon Target Is Reckless And Unrealistic 
    Now 20 years with no trend in ice breakup dates for Western Hudson Bay polar bears
    ‘Triple whammy’ threatens climate progress, says BBC News
    Zharkova uses solar-planetary theory in new paper predicting Earth temperature rise to 2600 following imminent Grand Solar Minimum
    Big-Idea Energy Alternatives Are Costly And Puny
    Mercury climbs as Europe braces for summer scorcher
    Scientists map huge undersea fresh-water aquifer off US Northeast
    Experts say there is no ‘climate emergency’
    New York State’s Energy Future: Lighting Candles?
    UK Minister suspended after grabbing climate activist
    Mysterious Moisture in the Mesosphere
    Record-Setting Noctilucent Clouds
    UK commits to ‘net zero’ emissions by 2050
Top Posts

    Study: Tesla car battery production releases as much CO2 as 8 years of driving on petrol
    Zharkova uses solar-planetary theory in new paper predicting Earth temperature rise to 2600 following imminent Grand Solar Minimum
    Alan Carlin: Unilateral US Decarbonization Could Have Serious Economic Consequences
    Discovery of massive volcanic CO2 emissions puts damper on global warming theory
    A remarkable discovery: All Solar system periods fit the Fibonacci series and the Golden Ratio. Why Phi?
    Uncertainty: The origin of the increase in Atmospheric CO2
    Tom Van Flandern: Was the planet Mercury once a moon of Venus?
    Back to basics 2: Lapse rates and atmospheric stability
    About me
    Germany’s Renewable Energy Fail: German CO2 Emissions 10 Times Higher than Nuclear-Powered France
Re:Zharkova solar-planetary theory predicting Grand Solar Mi... by b_tterc_p on Thursday July 04, 2019 @05:59PM (#20358143)
I’m curious why people are downvoting because this appears to be a correct assessment.

The paper here is probably legit (perhaps correct, perhaps not) but it’s claiming a 2.5 degree change by the year 2600, and not claiming to contradict climate change. In fact it kind of hints that a large portion of its trend analysis may be driven by human activity

> Although, it is not clear yet if this trend in the terrestrial temperature and solar irradiance is caused directly by the increased solar activity itself or by some other factors of the solar-terrestrial interaction in the whole solar system and human activities.

Feels a little too heavy on the doubt propagation for my tastes. The blog however claims this is direct evidence that man made climate change is wrong.