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Re:Waymo gets green light in California to pick up passenger... by yo-scot-99 on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @06:30PM (#20349576)
The Telsa autonomy investor day (which applied to the cars not the people) spent most of their time explaining their NN chip, ghost riding to correct predictions etc. Definitely gave the impression that the network was doing a lot of the decision making.
Re:Waymo gets green light in California to pick up passenger... by nostrademons on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @07:15PM (#20349947)
Of course, because NNs are hot with investors now and Tesla wants their money.

Companies frequently misrepresent how their technology works to the public. Typically they'll do some small portion with the hot technology for buzzword compliance, and then build the rest of it with an actually sensible, boring, and tailored-to-the-problem technology stack, oftentimes with a lot of proprietary legwork done by their data scientists and engineers. This way they get the best of all worlds: investment dollars from gullible investors, PR from journalists that want to hop on the next big thing, a product that actually works, and misdirection so competitors hop on approaches that aren't going to work anyway.

Re:Waymo gets green light in California to pick up passenger... by TaylorAlexander on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @08:45PM (#20350518)
That doesn’t seem to be the case with Tesla. Their custom chip is almost entirely focused on being a neural network accelerator and they seem to be hugely reliant on neural networks. Notably Waymo is said to be less reliant on neural networks but Tesla definitely depends on them.
Re:Waymo gets green light in California to pick up passenger... by ehsankia on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @10:03PM (#20350889)
That doesn't really prove much. The classification is the heavy part that needs acceleration. The algorithmic side would probably not need an accelerator, as it's basically a decision tree.

My original point was that the decision tree should hopefully degrade gracefully as the prediction quality goes down, and not have any brand that leads to an insane behavior.

Now obviously, the better your predictions, the better the driving will be, which is why you'd want NN accelerators.

Re:Waymo gets green light in California to pick up passenger... by xmprt on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @06:48PM (#20349702)
Gives me the impression that Tesla made a small innovation which they're trying to overblow to investors since buzzwords like machine learning are more interesting than actual progress. I'm not saying Tesla isn't making massive progress but that anything they say to the press should be taken with a grain of salt.
Re:Waymo gets green light in California to pick up passenger... by drcross on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @10:28PM (#20351000)
Why speculate? Watch the I vestor day video and see for yourself why it's not just hot air.