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Re:Cannabidiol in Anxiety and Sleep: A Large Case Series by superkuh on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @10:50AM (#20344729)
The dosages of CBD used in this study are far, far, too low to have any effect. Just like most CBD dosing in commercial situations. Usually scientific investigation use the actual useful dosages of 300-600 mg in humans. I guess these guys didn't do the required background review beforehand.

CBD is not active at the CB1 or CB2 receptors. It has very low affinity for them. It has moderate affinity for the serotonin-1a autoreceptor (that the anti-anxiety medication buspirone also targets). But only at very high dosages (ie, 300mg+).

So... this study has only really tested the placebo effect.

edit: I finished reading the journal article and it turns out they didn't use clinically relevant doses because it'd cost too much. So they decided to just go the placebo route.

>The doses used in this study (25 mg/d to 175 mg/d) were much lower than those reported in some of the clinical literature (300 mg/d to 600 mg/d)12–14,17 for 2 reasons. The first is that in our experience lower doses appear to elicit an adequate clinical response. Second, the current retail cost of CBD would make the use of 600 mg/d cost prohibitive.

Re:Cannabidiol in Anxiety and Sleep: A Large Case Series by pizza on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @11:34AM (#20345182)
Yeah, the cheapest CBD I could find on Google was ~$30/g (pre- tax, shipping, etc). Good luck convincing people to spend $600/mo on their sleep!

(I can already hear the HNers coming out of the woodwork to attest to their willingness to do so, how sleep is 1/3rd of your life and so if you're spending < 1/3rd of your income on it you're actually getting a great deal, and how it would actually save them tons of money to sleep a bit better and with a little less anxiety...yada yada..

but the vast majority of people can't do that)

Re:Cannabidiol in Anxiety and Sleep: A Large Case Series by cneurotic on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @11:36AM (#20345216)
Ha, your parenthetical definitely anticipated me.

If I could RELIABLY score a solid 8 hours every single night, I would call $600/mo steep — but worth it.

Re:Cannabidiol in Anxiety and Sleep: A Large Case Series by JimboOmega on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @12:57PM (#20346177)
Also says something about the general cross section of HN users that $600/mo is "steep but worth it". There a lot of people for whom $600/mo is wildly unaffordable for anything, even essential medical care.

(FWIW, I'm with you, if I could wake up well rested every morning, I'd drop $1K/mo or more without a second thought)

Re:Cannabidiol in Anxiety and Sleep: A Large Case Series by superkuh on Thursday July 04, 2019 @12:47AM (#20351617)
When you're taking 600mg of CBD it's likely there's at least a handful of mg of THC 'contamination'; enough to be an active dose. Part of the reason it's expensive is separating the two effectively.
Re:Cannabidiol in Anxiety and Sleep: A Large Case Series by bob_theslob646 on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @11:37AM (#20345231)
I bet you people would use it if it was their last resort to getting a good rest.
Re:Cannabidiol in Anxiety and Sleep: A Large Case Series by pizza on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @11:46AM (#20345315)
No doubt. Insomnia is merciless. It's just that, for a lot of people, this approach will be out of their reach. Not that that means we shouldn't try to make it affordable, of course.
Re:Cannabidiol in Anxiety and Sleep: A Large Case Series by jammygit on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @04:09PM (#20348245)
Is there a more trustworthy study we should look at?