Re:Cannabidiol in Anxiety and Sleep: A Large Case Series
by pizza on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @11:34AM
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Yeah, the cheapest CBD I could find on Google was ~$30/g (pre- tax, shipping, etc). Good luck convincing people to spend $600/mo on their sleep!
(I can already hear the HNers coming out of the woodwork to attest to their willingness to do so, how sleep is 1/3rd of your life and so if you're spending < 1/3rd of your income on it you're actually getting a great deal, and how it would actually save them tons of money to sleep a bit better and with a little less anxiety...yada yada..
but the vast majority of people can't do that)
Re:Cannabidiol in Anxiety and Sleep: A Large Case Series
by cneurotic on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @11:36AM
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Ha, your parenthetical definitely anticipated me.
If I could RELIABLY score a solid 8 hours every single night, I would call $600/mo steep — but worth it.
Re:Cannabidiol in Anxiety and Sleep: A Large Case Series
by JimboOmega on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @12:57PM
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Also says something about the general cross section of HN users that $600/mo is "steep but worth it". There a lot of people for whom $600/mo is wildly unaffordable for anything, even essential medical care.
(FWIW, I'm with you, if I could wake up well rested every morning, I'd drop $1K/mo or more without a second thought)
Re:Cannabidiol in Anxiety and Sleep: A Large Case Series
by superkuh on Thursday July 04, 2019 @12:47AM
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When you're taking 600mg of CBD it's likely there's at least a handful of mg of THC 'contamination'; enough to be an active dose. Part of the reason it's expensive is separating the two effectively.
Re:Cannabidiol in Anxiety and Sleep: A Large Case Series
by bob_theslob646 on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @11:37AM
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I bet you people would use it if it was their last resort to getting a good rest.
CBD is not active at the CB1 or CB2 receptors. It has very low affinity for them. It has moderate affinity for the serotonin-1a autoreceptor (that the anti-anxiety medication buspirone also targets). But only at very high dosages (ie, 300mg+).
So... this study has only really tested the placebo effect.
edit: I finished reading the journal article and it turns out they didn't use clinically relevant doses because it'd cost too much. So they decided to just go the placebo route.
>The doses used in this study (25 mg/d to 175 mg/d) were much lower than those reported in some of the clinical literature (300 mg/d to 600 mg/d)12–14,17 for 2 reasons. The first is that in our experience lower doses appear to elicit an adequate clinical response. Second, the current retail cost of CBD would make the use of 600 mg/d cost prohibitive.