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Re:I Opted Out of Facial Recognition at the Airport – It Was... by aurbano on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @04:19AM (#20342561)
Agreed. What is the privacy concern of allowing face recognition if you are letting them scan your passport?
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Re:I Opted Out of Facial Recognition at the Airport – It Was... by kowdermeister on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @04:28AM (#20342609)
Maybe you don't want new data points on your face in a database.
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Re:I Opted Out of Facial Recognition at the Airport – It Was... by chii on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @04:42AM (#20342672)
Not sure if this happens in smaller airports, but if the passport scanner is automated, they already take a picture of you.
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Re:I Opted Out of Facial Recognition at the Airport – It Was... by rickycook on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @05:02AM (#20342760)
they have a copy of a static image that they likely already have access to. very different to a high res alternate image, from a different angle, with a different expression, in different lighting
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Re:I Opted Out of Facial Recognition at the Airport – It Was... by nimajneb on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @10:35AM (#20344619)
It's only static if they aren't using AI to analyze the tons of images they have of you from security cameras etc. Google Photos can learn and search for faces of a person based on one confirmed face a person. I'm sure Facebook can as well. There's no reason to believe the Government or TSA is or isn't doing this.
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Re:I Opted Out of Facial Recognition at the Airport – It Was... by edwintorok on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @06:28AM (#20343085)
The ePassport gates in at the UK border both scan your passport and take a picture to confirm that it is indeed you. Since they already had my picture in the database from the passport I did not consider this an invasion of my privacy, and (for now) they are opt-in instead of opt-out.
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Re:I Opted Out of Facial Recognition at the Airport – It Was... by beatgammit on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @09:32AM (#20344109)
Wait, what do they take a picture of, your passport or you?
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Re:I Opted Out of Facial Recognition at the Airport – It Was... by matwood on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @09:50AM (#20344238)
You scan your passport, lean in for a picture of your face, and hand a receipt to a person on your way out.
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Re:I Opted Out of Facial Recognition at the Airport – It Was... by edwintorok on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @11:14AM (#20344955)
Yes, except instead of a receipt the gate just opened and I went through.
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Re:I Opted Out of Facial Recognition at the Airport – It Was... by bradstewart on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @09:50AM (#20344239)
Both.
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Re:I Opted Out of Facial Recognition at the Airport – It Was... by bonestamp2 on Thursday July 04, 2019 @03:09AM (#20352294)
It would make sense if that were true, but they already have his face. All he's really opting out of is them matching the one in their database when he's standing there. Maybe there's some value in that, but I agree the real value is not giving them your face to begin with and it's too late for that by the time you get to the gate... they've already got it.
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Re:I Opted Out of Facial Recognition at the Airport – It Was... by gbrown on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @08:38AM (#20343746)
There are already cameras everywhere though.
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Re:I Opted Out of Facial Recognition at the Airport – It Was... by dawnerd on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @04:31AM (#20342618)
Exactly, they already have your face in the system. Opting out isn't going to change that.

Airports are likely already using facial recognition anyways. PDX had these installed not too long ago: https://www.dormakaba.com/us-en/solutions/products/entrance-...

What makes these interesting is they're getting stereoscopic imaging with multiple camera angles of video. That can potentially be used for some invasive tracking.

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Re:I Opted Out of Facial Recognition at the Airport – It Was... by femto113 on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @01:59PM (#20346803)
The distinction is nonsensical to me from a privacy standpoint. Your passport includes a picture of your face, anyone scanning your passport looks at that picture and your face to verify the passport is "you". I'm sure whatever is recorded by either process is essentially the same: a person with your face was in a particular place at a particular time.
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