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Re:Minnesota Will Pay Residents to Grow Bee-Friendly Lawns by bencollier49 on Tuesday July 02, 2019 @12:40PM (#20336821)
Is it worth pointing out that Himalayan Balsam is a major invasive species? Characterised as a 'nuisance plant'.

https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?pid=480

Re:Minnesota Will Pay Residents to Grow Bee-Friendly Lawns by bduerst on Tuesday July 02, 2019 @01:15PM (#20337195)
I was going to say, this list would be better if the non-native species were labelled with a * or something.

Even in Minnesota, there's a push to restore native prairie grasses, which also benefits bees: https://www.beeculture.com/prairie-restoration/

Re:Minnesota Will Pay Residents to Grow Bee-Friendly Lawns by Iwan-Zotow on Tuesday July 02, 2019 @02:27PM (#20337961)
> restore native prairie grasses

And what would be "native" to Minnesota given that (at least) 2C temperature raise is pretty much in the books?

Re:Minnesota Will Pay Residents to Grow Bee-Friendly Lawns by mulmen on Tuesday July 02, 2019 @05:24PM (#20339529)
Native plants are plants that occur... natively. If a plant was brought in from elsewhere it is invasive. It has nothing to do with temperature.
Re:Minnesota Will Pay Residents to Grow Bee-Friendly Lawns by karthikb on Tuesday July 02, 2019 @05:54PM (#20339724)
Plant seeds tend to travel far and wide with birds and animal migratory patterns. What takes root is dependent on soil, climate, etc. Meaning, what’s native is less dependent on location and more on conditions.

As climate changes, conditions change, and so the set of plants best suited to any particular location changes as well.

Re:Minnesota Will Pay Residents to Grow Bee-Friendly Lawns by Retric on Tuesday July 02, 2019 @05:54PM (#20339726)
Plant ranges are migrating due to climate change. For species that are native to areas close enough to be introduced naturally invasive is not a useful definition.
Re:Minnesota Will Pay Residents to Grow Bee-Friendly Lawns by mulmen on Tuesday July 02, 2019 @05:57PM (#20339741)
Exactly. Those plants are not invasive.
Re:Minnesota Will Pay Residents to Grow Bee-Friendly Lawns by Breza on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @11:50AM (#20345359)
Some native plants can handle that kind of temperature change better than others. I wish there were a database of plants that are both native and climate resilient for different areas.
Re:Minnesota Will Pay Residents to Grow Bee-Friendly Lawns by reallydude on Tuesday July 02, 2019 @12:57PM (#20337012)
As is the Himalayan Blackberry - https://www.nwcb.wa.gov/weeds/himalayan-blackberry

The himalayan environment spawned some very pernicious and hardy species!

Re:Minnesota Will Pay Residents to Grow Bee-Friendly Lawns by xyzzyz on Tuesday July 02, 2019 @07:33PM (#20340338)
Plenty of these around me. Grow super fast, push out everything else, and are very hard to get rid of.
Re:Minnesota Will Pay Residents to Grow Bee-Friendly Lawns by Something1234 on Tuesday July 02, 2019 @09:41PM (#20340897)
Are the berries edible?
Re:Minnesota Will Pay Residents to Grow Bee-Friendly Lawns by tlavoie on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @03:18AM (#20342298)
Very, they're quite delicious!

However, the vines themselves are a thorny menace, with a coating of sharp, strong spines that hook backwards towards the root. Catch one of these sometimes slender tendrils around an ankle while walking, and you might think you can just pull through it... and rapidly learn that you shouldn't.

If you can't convince someone to pick them for you, go armoured. I have some old fire turn-out pants that help quite a bit.

Re:Minnesota Will Pay Residents to Grow Bee-Friendly Lawns by chihuahua on Tuesday July 02, 2019 @02:41PM (#20338120)
Yellow Water Iris is also invasive. Once you have them, they are very difficult to get rid of.
Re:Minnesota Will Pay Residents to Grow Bee-Friendly Lawns by Aromasin on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @03:14AM (#20342278)
I believe they're native to the UK, but not the US. The plant was also rated in second place for per day nectar production per flower in a UK plants survey conducted by the AgriLand project which is supported by the UK Insect Pollinators Initiative.

They also look wonderful, so they're very much here to stay.

Re:Minnesota Will Pay Residents to Grow Bee-Friendly Lawns by Aromasin on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @03:12AM (#20342270)
One or two on the list are non-native, simply because their nectar production was so good. Admittedly I've been relatively blasé when it comes to native vs non-native. My only requirements were that bees like it and it can grow in the hard, clay-like soil in my garden. I've had no issues with the native plants getting blocked out by the non-native, but I will keep an eye on it and remove any foreign guests that seem to be taking my hospitality too generously.
Re:Minnesota Will Pay Residents to Grow Bee-Friendly Lawns by mark-r on Tuesday July 02, 2019 @01:55PM (#20337635)
Honeysuckle too.
Re:Minnesota Will Pay Residents to Grow Bee-Friendly Lawns by Aromasin on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @03:20AM (#20342302)
I've planted the Lonicera periclymenum species, which is very much native to the UK. I'm also looking to plant the other type, Lonicera xylosteum, in the coming months. If you're in the US though I believe it could well be an invasive species from Europe.
Re:Minnesota Will Pay Residents to Grow Bee-Friendly Lawns by mark-r on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @10:43AM (#20344681)
Yes, I'm in the US - Minnesota in fact. Our worst bush/tree invader is Buckthorn, but Honeysuckle is right behind it. I believe both were introduced as garden plants.
Re:Minnesota Will Pay Residents to Grow Bee-Friendly Lawns by hdfbdtbcdg on Tuesday July 02, 2019 @04:24PM (#20339101)
Rhododendron is pretty bad as well.
Re:Minnesota Will Pay Residents to Grow Bee-Friendly Lawns by Aromasin on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @05:54AM (#20342962)
Having just now read about Rhododendron destroying habitats all around the UK, I'm inclined to tear it out. I'll play it by ear and just keep an eye on it for the moment. If it starts growing unruly I'll be sure to take my shears to it. If only it wasn't so pretty, and so bee-friendly!
Re:Minnesota Will Pay Residents to Grow Bee-Friendly Lawns by tomohawk on Tuesday July 02, 2019 @04:38PM (#20339217)
There are native varieties as well as the ones from asia.