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Re:Would your mobile phone be powerful enough to get you to ... by grenoire on Monday July 01, 2019 @09:07AM (#20324855)
"It would almost certainly not have a keyboard, but would use swipe commands on a touch screen. If that were not possible, due to having to wear gloves, the interface might be through gestures, eye movement or some other intuitive interface."

I'm not quite sure, it was only recently here on HN that we discussed Mazda taking out touchscreens from cars[0]. I don't see any problems with keyboards or other mechanical input devices; experience and discourse shows it might even be preferable.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20200335

Re:Would your mobile phone be powerful enough to get you to ... by sillyquiet on Monday July 01, 2019 @09:19AM (#20324958)
Yeah to add to this - I think physical knobs and switches and dials will be the preferred inputs for the mission critical controls of a space craft (and probably, anywhere, really).

I think all the movies and tv shows that showcase the fancy future touch screens and minority-report style gesture displays will feel as quaint and dated in the next couple decades as Star Trek TOS's incandescent bulb arrays and paper readouts are to us now.

Re:Would your mobile phone be powerful enough to get you to ... by naavis on Monday July 01, 2019 @09:36AM (#20325103)
Agreed. I think touchscreens are gaining popularity in consumer devices for a large part because they are cheap compared to mechanical inputs. Mechanical switches, dials and buttons are surprisingly expensive. But when it comes to spacecraft and such, the relative price of these components is insignificant.
Re:Would your mobile phone be powerful enough to get you to ... by gargravarr on Monday July 01, 2019 @09:54AM (#20325244)
Touchscreens are ideal for consumer devices because it means not having to commit to a single UI design - you can move buttons around onscreen as needed, overhaul the software to put things in a new place as you like, and not having to worry that the dial the user turns is tied to a value box that is now on the opposite side of the screen. Not only is it cheaper from a component perspective, but it's cheaper from a design perspective - you don't have to finalise the design for the UI before it goes to manufacturing, just tell the factory to stick a large enough touchscreen in the centre and the UI can be added later, after the various teams have finished arguing.

What they are not, however, is intuitive, much as designers like to say they are - there is zero consistency in the UX between devices, buttons all look different, sometimes between updates, and half the time you open an app, it's a dice roll whether it's going to work the same it did last time. There is also no inherent tactile feedback - phones have haptic vibrators to simulate a button press, but there is no other feedback, and you can't feel the buttons with your fingertips before pushing them. You have to be looking directly at the screen to find the control you need - when the device is primarily designed to be in your hand, it's kind of acceptable, but when it's a control panel for something vital, this simply won't work; your eyes are supposed to be fixed on what the control panel is controlling. These reasons are why Mazda has backed out of using them for cars - your eyes need to be on the road. You can change fan and temperature settings by touch alone once you know where the controls are. In Apollo 13, if Jim Lovell had to keep looking at a touchscreen to make sure he was actually pushing the thrust control in the right direction while keeping his visual fix on the Moon, there's a great chance he'd have sent the stack spinning off into space.

Re:Would your mobile phone be powerful enough to get you to ... by seeker61 on Monday July 01, 2019 @10:51AM (#20325825)
I agree with this 100.000 percent. UX people in general have crawled up their own stacks and died.
Re:Would your mobile phone be powerful enough to get you to ... by bluGill on Monday July 01, 2019 @09:45AM (#20325164)
There will be a mix. Touch screens are cheap and light compared to mechanical switches. However mechanical switches have a large usability edge. Anything critical or used often will get a mechanical control. However for things that are not critical AND not accessed often a touch screen is cheap and flexible.
Re:Would your mobile phone be powerful enough to get you to ... by shartshooter on Monday July 01, 2019 @09:45AM (#20325163)
The redesign of the F-35 cockpit is going to include touchscreens[0].

I agree that I would prefer physical knobs/dials/buttons to a touch screen but it looks like that's not the direction flight systems are going so I'd have to assume space flight systems will follow suit.

[0] https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2017-07-19/e...

Re:Would your mobile phone be powerful enough to get you to ... by reallydude on Monday July 01, 2019 @12:21PM (#20326898)
There are special gloves, that I have, which allow for gestures on my phone. It uses some sort of special mesh on the outside.