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Re:Berlin Brandenburg: The airport with half a million faults by pizza234 on Saturday June 29, 2019 @12:32PM (#20313436)
> and also pretty inconvenient public transport links (Tegel especially)

This is false. Both are accessible with a trip on the metro U7 (which cuts the entire city NW<>SE) plus a tiny/short (depending on the airport) bus trip.

We're talking about 30/45 minutes, the large part of whom is on a very frequent metro line. By airport connection standards, this is very convenient (besides being cheap).

> awful, way over capacity, bad facilities

"awful" doesn't mean anything in this context.

Capacity is not so immediate to assess. While terminal C has a standard structure with two security checkpoints, terminal A has checkin and gates directly connected, which makes them very efficient (checkin queues develop in a corridor, essentially, but due to the checkin/gate efficiency, they don't last long).

Facilities are not "bad" - they're not modern, which is different (ie. computing stations). This is obviously a pain for people who need to be plugged 24/7 to a socket, but there's plenty of airports with an old structure.

Re:Berlin Brandenburg: The airport with half a million faults by cameldrv on Saturday June 29, 2019 @09:09PM (#20315775)
I'd say it's fair to call the transit situation at Tegel inconvenient. You have to figure out what bus to get on, buy a ticket, haul your luggage onto a bus, haul it off, get off the bus, then walk outside and down to the subway platform. This takes 20 minutes and is uncomfortable. If the U7 went to Tegel as was planned, you'd just take the escalator to the subway platform and get on in the direction towards the city.

If you take a taxi or rent a car to Tegel, it's extremely convenient.

Re:Berlin Brandenburg: The airport with half a million faults by iso-8859-1 on Sunday June 30, 2019 @01:01AM (#20316440)
> If the U7 went to Tegel

It won't go to Tegel, but might be extended to the BER!

https://www.morgenpost.de/berlin/article215847355/U-Bahn-Der...

You are thinking of the U6 though (see linked article)

Re:Berlin Brandenburg: The airport with half a million faults by davnicwil on Saturday June 29, 2019 @06:23PM (#20315172)
This is obviously subjective and just my opinion, but let me add more depth to justify why I hold that opinion a bit more.

Facilities-wise I was talking about lack of seats, lack of spacious and modern and frankly sometimes clean bathrooms, lack of sufficient staff doing things like passport checking and security, lack of physical space for movement of people through the airport, lack of food/drink and shopping quality and variety, particularly past security. All of these apply to both, with Schonefeld being noticeably worse on every point.

Capacity - All I can say is that at both, there are slow-moving queues of people at gates that restrict the movement of people trying to get to other gates. There is more throughput of people now than the airports were designed for - they're tautologically over capacity - if they weren't then this wouldn't happen, as it doesn't at most other airports.

Public transport - this one's subjective and depends on usecase, and I'm not claiming it's terrible. It works, and sure it's relatively quick. But it's exactly those connections (from Tegel) that bring the inconvenience for two reasons - the first is that it's more difficult to navigate to the center having to make connections if you don't know the system (i.e. for tourists). The second is if you have heavy luggage - it's really not convenient at all to lug bags onto and off of connections, especially buses. If you're a local who knows the networks and you're doing a short flight with hand luggage, I agree that in that usecase it's fine.

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A bit meta now: I think it's amazing and I'm genuinely pleased to see that you're not only disagreeing with my opinions, but coming to the defence of these airports and outwardly saying they're really good, along with other commenters. I worded my original comment quite strongly and matter-of-factly because I honestly thought that 'everyone' would hold broadly the same views. Anecdotally, I've never talked to anyone living in Berlin who disagreed with me on any of this, and I've never imagined whilst being in either of these airports that anyone else there could be thinking 'this is great'. I'm amazed to see how wrong I was, and I love to be exposed to the breadth of opinions that exist out there, through forums like HN, just because the scale of the internet allows them to surface. Always love to have a good debate about such things, it makes me remember the counter points I'm overlooking and/or discover new ones and rethink my original opinions a bit.