Toshiba and WD NAND Production Hit by Power Outage: 6 Exabytes Lost

Re:Toshiba and WD NAND Production Hit by Power Outage: 6 Exa... by wyxuan on Saturday June 29, 2019 @11:36AM (#20313157)

Yeah I was surprised. Don't they have a ups for this kind of thing?

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Re:Toshiba and WD NAND Production Hit by Power Outage: 6 Exa... by HankB99 on Saturday June 29, 2019 @12:11PM (#20313338)

Yes. My Google-fu is not up to finding them but I happen to be familiar with this company's products and here is one. https://www.energy-xprt.com/products/purewave-ups-systems-55...

One application of this kind of product is chip fabs because they are so sensitive to power disruptions.

Whether Toshiba/WD had this type of system and if so, why it didn't prevent loss of product was not mentioned in the linked article. I have heard that there is a glut in chips for SSDs so a reason to cut production can't be ruled out. However it seems like Toshiba/WD would pay the price for this outage while their competitors would reap the benefits (unless the competition agreed to somehow share the cost.)

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Re:Toshiba and WD NAND Production Hit by Power Outage: 6 Exa... by pault on Saturday June 29, 2019 @12:36PM (#20313452)

I believe the memory industry is also known for price fixing, so it's not out of the question. The oversupply is ridiculous though; the last time I shopped for an nvme they were $1000 for 500gb and the other day I bought 1TB for $500.

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Re:Toshiba and WD NAND Production Hit by Power Outage: 6 Exa... by thoughtfunction on Saturday June 29, 2019 @03:46PM (#20314387)

1TB TLC was $300-$500 3 years ago, where are you shopping, the expensive store?

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Re:Toshiba and WD NAND Production Hit by Power Outage: 6 Exa... by peterburkimsher on Saturday June 29, 2019 @11:14PM (#20316122)

The other day I bought 2 TB for $189 (Intel 660P). Actually I bought 5 of them, because they're so cheap in Taiwan right now. I was really pleased to discover that they fit my spare MacBook Air using an adaptor, and 10.14 Mojave supports TRIM.

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Re:Toshiba and WD NAND Production Hit by Power Outage: 6 Exa... by nixgeek on Saturday June 29, 2019 @01:08PM (#20313623)

Amazon was selling 2TB NVMe from Intel for under $200 just last week!

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Re:Toshiba and WD NAND Production Hit by Power Outage: 6 Exa... by loeg on Saturday June 29, 2019 @01:24PM (#20313683)

Yeah Intel 660p (QLC, but with some SLC cache and a decent controller) is going for under $100 per TB. In my (limited) experience it makes a solid non-24/7 workstation drive (e.g., I use it for local object storage for large builds).

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Re:Toshiba and WD NAND Production Hit by Power Outage: 6 Exa... by fao_ on Saturday June 29, 2019 @02:32PM (#20314035)

> The oversupply is ridiculous though;

No it's not? Isn't that basically capitalism working as intended (in this rare case)?

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Re:Toshiba and WD NAND Production Hit by Power Outage: 6 Exa... by reaperducer on Saturday June 29, 2019 @02:07PM (#20313920)

Yeah I was surprised. Don't they have a ups for this kind of thing?

One would think. Though, the tech industry is much like any other industry, and I imagine a conversation like this:

Engineer: We need to install backup generators in case the grid goes down.

Middle manager: Can you do it without stopping production?

Engineer: No.

Middle manager: Screw it. It's the next guy's problem.

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Re:Toshiba and WD NAND Production Hit by Power Outage: 6 Exa... by londons_explore on Monday July 01, 2019 @01:59AM (#20322793)

At this sort of level, all power systems can be replaced or redesigned without the load being switched off...

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