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Re:One Casualty of the Palm Oil Industry: An Orangutan Mothe... by Railsify on Saturday June 29, 2019 @11:34AM (#20313135)
As well as many other things, have you heard of Nutella?
Re:One Casualty of the Palm Oil Industry: An Orangutan Mothe... by kibwen on Saturday June 29, 2019 @11:43AM (#20313204)
Well, to be fair to the parent commenter, Nutella contains about 2/3 the calories of gasoline per unit of weight, so the confusion is understandable. :P
Re:One Casualty of the Palm Oil Industry: An Orangutan Mothe... by NeedMoreTea on Saturday June 29, 2019 @12:02PM (#20313296)
I thought Nutella was famous for two things, neither of them palm oil: Using some crazy percentage of the world's hazelnut supply - a half, a quarter? Not sure. Also for changing the recipe to a new, awful one. Though maybe this added the palm oil.

Palm oil seems to be getting used to substitute other oils and and ingredients in just about everything processed lately.

Re:One Casualty of the Palm Oil Industry: An Orangutan Mothe... by pergadad on Saturday June 29, 2019 @01:38PM (#20313758)
Not only Nutella, the company Ferrero Overall uses this amount of hazelnuts, but it's also other products. Nutella is just the flagship product.
Re:One Casualty of the Palm Oil Industry: An Orangutan Mothe... by chewz on Saturday June 29, 2019 @11:40AM (#20313188)
> have you heard of Nutella?

Always wonder who's buying Nutella. Sugar and palmoil.

Re:One Casualty of the Palm Oil Industry: An Orangutan Mothe... by simias on Saturday June 29, 2019 @11:46AM (#20313219)
Because if there's one basic nutrition fact we all know, it's that humans aren't attracted to sugar and fat.
Re:One Casualty of the Palm Oil Industry: An Orangutan Mothe... by darkpuma on Saturday June 29, 2019 @02:58PM (#20314142)
In America nutella is an obscure condiment generally considered too desserty to be useful for much, sort of like "marshmellow spread". Yet the average European gets approximately 80-90% of their yearly caloric intake from Nutella, from what I've gathered.
Re:One Casualty of the Palm Oil Industry: An Orangutan Mothe... by Railsify on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @08:38PM (#20350484)
I buy the large jar of Nutella. ~American
Re:One Casualty of the Palm Oil Industry: An Orangutan Mothe... by chrisseaton on Saturday June 29, 2019 @11:46AM (#20313221)
You can make any food sound ridiculous by reducing it to its ingredients.
Re:One Casualty of the Palm Oil Industry: An Orangutan Mothe... by chewz on Saturday June 29, 2019 @11:55AM (#20313262)
Nutella started as mix of hazelnuts and chocolate (to save on chocolate in Piedmont Italy) now more then 50% of its content is palmoil and sugar. What happend?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutella

Re:One Casualty of the Palm Oil Industry: An Orangutan Mothe... by simias on Saturday June 29, 2019 @01:22PM (#20313671)
I mean it's not really a big mystery, I'm not sure where this discussion is going. A ton of super popular food is ridiculously unhealthy. Coca Cola is basically super-sweet water. Jams don't usually have added fats but they do have a ton of sugar. Cotton Candy is literally only sugar (and some colorant I suppose).

Clearly the incentives here are simple, you want to make a product that people like as much as possible while making it as cheaply as possible. Health is not really a factor, insofar as not too many people don't drop your product because they see it as unhealthy (ads will help with that, all Nutella ads I've seen in France focus on "giving energy to children for their activities" or some bullshit like that).

So that's how you end up with something that's mainly palm oil and sugar. The market has spoken. I'm sure that if they reverted back to their original recipe they'd lose a significant amount of clients.

Re:One Casualty of the Palm Oil Industry: An Orangutan Mothe... by improbable22 on Saturday June 29, 2019 @02:51PM (#20314116)
You can buy spreads which are just hazelnuts and chocolate. But they cost several times as much as nutella, unsurprisingly.
Re:One Casualty of the Palm Oil Industry: An Orangutan Mothe... by chewz on Sunday June 30, 2019 @03:47AM (#20316947)
> I'm not sure where this discussion is going

we are invastigating how food insdustry transformed healthy snacks into palmoil and sugar to great harm for sumatrean jungle and its habitat.

Re:One Casualty of the Palm Oil Industry: An Orangutan Mothe... by lonelappde on Saturday June 29, 2019 @12:10PM (#20313327)
What? Not all foods are sugar and oil. Healthy foods have fiber, protein, and complex starches.
Re:One Casualty of the Palm Oil Industry: An Orangutan Mothe... by Railsify on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @08:39PM (#20350488)
Commenter probable survives on Soylent.
Re:One Casualty of the Palm Oil Industry: An Orangutan Mothe... by 13of40 on Saturday June 29, 2019 @11:53AM (#20313251)
Not tofu. It's beans.
Re:One Casualty of the Palm Oil Industry: An Orangutan Mothe... by twic on Saturday June 29, 2019 @02:02PM (#20313894)
Italians.