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Re:Trade War Has Damaged U.S. Chip Industry by danaris on Friday June 28, 2019 @11:53AM (#20305618)
This is exactly correct, but unfortunately, because your first sentence is true, you're getting significantly downvoted.

It is an example of the paradox of tolerance: If a group believes in tolerance, absolutely, to the point that they tolerate intolerance, then over time, those who are intolerant will tend to gain power within the group and the tolerance will be eroded (except, of course, the tolerance of those intolerant beliefs that usurp them).

Absolutism of any kind is generally going to lead to problems in our imperfect, non-absolute world. Free speech maximalism is just one example of that. If we put people and their genuine needs before abstract principles, that will tend to be a better guide for how to make a society that serves everyone—and, indeed, allows the greatest freedom for the greatest number.

Re:Trade War Has Damaged U.S. Chip Industry by fatbird on Friday June 28, 2019 @12:16PM (#20305875)
The argument I made was originally formulated by Andrea Dworkin, testifying to Congress about pornography, and formulating it that way--what metric are you measuring freedom by--has done a lot to expand my thinking.

Another is the saying "tolerance isn't a virtue, it's a peace treaty", which I think really cuts through the apparent dilemma you highlight.

Re:Trade War Has Damaged U.S. Chip Industry by wolco on Friday June 28, 2019 @02:03PM (#20307126)
If people put there own needs first you end up with a selfish group that doesn't serve society only themselves. People believing in an abstract idea can rally society around important causes.
Re:Trade War Has Damaged U.S. Chip Industry by danaris on Friday June 28, 2019 @03:08PM (#20307827)
I'm not suggesting to put one's one needs first, but rather those of other people—or all people. To the extent a principle, abstract idea, or cause is useful, it must be examined in light of its effects, both direct and indirect, on people.

Sometimes, policies that follow from abstract ideas do harm to some people, in the interests of helping others (hopefully more), or do harm in the short term, in the interests of helping in the long term. Sometimes, these tradeoffs are good to make; other times, they are not.

There is no hard and fast Golden Rule that can serve as your bedrock if you treat it as something to be applied in all situations without critical analysis. The closest I can come is "care about people", but even that requires careful application, because there are situations when you must do things that hurt some people—even people you do care about—in order to do what is best for all.