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Re:Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as... by app-pole on Friday June 28, 2019 @10:29AM (#20304628)
Apple has very skilled engineers, makes great strides in security, and I'm impressed by their hardware skills.

However, UX is their weakness. I don't know why we keep pretending that UX is Apple's strength. Have you used their window manager? Have you used their workspace implementation? Clearly they haven't used it themselves. Everything about the Mac UI is geared toward just having a pile of windows in one workspace.

Their window switcher by default requires switching between applications then switching between the windows of that application. Why?

Rearranging the contents of workspaces is a complicated dance of swipes and drags and other mouse-heavy movements. On a decent window manager, this can all be done with keyboard shortcuts.

They neglect power-users. They neglect usability for those with limited range of motion.

Re:Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as... by DavideNL on Friday June 28, 2019 @03:36PM (#20308072)
> They neglect power-users.

The way i see it is Apple provides simple defaults which work best for most/avarage users.

If you want something different/extra vs the default, you can customize some stuff within SystemPreferences (like keyboard shortcuts) or install a third party app (like BetterTouchTool, Contexts, Moom, Magnet, etc.)

Personally, i much prefer my Macbook's UX over my Windows10 UX.

Re:Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as... by Wowfunhappy on Friday June 28, 2019 @11:24AM (#20305231)
I like how Window management works in macOS more than the other platforms! The touchpad gestures are great. Or, if you're using a mouse with extra buttons, one of the side buttons can get mapped to Mission Control, which works wonderfully!

I did prefer App Exposé in Snow Leopard, but ah well...

Re:Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as... by noobiemcfoob on Friday June 28, 2019 @11:13PM (#20310599)
"the other platforms" leads me to suspect you haven't tried many other window managers. Linux has too many to name.
Re:Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as... by Wowfunhappy on Saturday June 29, 2019 @09:37PM (#20315865)
I mean, I'm certainly not a Linux expert, but I've played with it before. I've used Gnome, Pantheon (elemenataryOS), and i3wm.

Not a fan of tiling window managers, personally.

Re:Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as... by TheKarateKid on Friday June 28, 2019 @12:06PM (#20305768)
Agreed. The only thing that mitigated this is that larger screens naturally made us more prone to having a bunch of windows open on a screen. Back in the 1024x768 days, not being able to maximize a window on Mac was ridiculous. "Full screen" view is/was a terrible "solution" to this.

The fact that windows can't be "snapped" like on Windows is so frustrating. (Yes, I know there are 3rd party apps for this.)

Re:Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as... by sleepinseattle on Friday June 28, 2019 @04:10PM (#20308379)
> The fact that windows can't be "snapped" like on Windows is so frustrating.

They can actually: press and hold the green button, then drag the window to the side.

Re:Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as... by pacifiedcitizen on Saturday June 29, 2019 @06:22PM (#20315164)
So that's infuriating... but thanks.
Re:Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as... by noobiemcfoob on Saturday June 29, 2019 @09:49PM (#20315902)
And illustrates one of my core problems with Apple stuff: so much is hidden in gestures I'll never naturally discover unless someone tells you. Likely where Snapchat got the idea
Re:Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as... by creatornator on Friday June 28, 2019 @12:27PM (#20306028)
> Their window switcher by default requires switching between applications then switching between the windows of that application. Why?

Really? When I use four fingers and swipe up (instead of down), I see windows from all applications and can switch between them

Re:Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as... by EpicEng on Friday June 28, 2019 @12:35PM (#20306115)
Try using the keyboard e.g. Alt+Tab in Windows.
Re:Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as... by freeplay on Friday June 28, 2019 @11:23AM (#20305225)
Download 'Magnet'

Not a native solution but very lightweight and solves a lot of your issues.

And if you want something extremely powerful and robust, check out Hammerspoon. Much more complicated setup but basically turns the MacOS window manager into a proper tiling wm.

Re:Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as... by grumdan on Friday June 28, 2019 @03:55PM (#20308238)
I really recommend Amethyst, which is an xmonad-like tiling window manager for OSX. It's still not as configurable as xmonad, but certainly nicer for me than the default WM:

https://github.com/ianyh/Amethyst

Re:Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as... by ashishb on Monday July 01, 2019 @02:27AM (#20322912)
Have you tried spectacle https://www.spectacleapp.com/?
Re:Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as... by lowdose on Sunday June 30, 2019 @06:32PM (#20320996)
>I'm impressed by their hardware skills.

I am not anymore the Macbook Pro is a huge disappointment. iCloud runs on Google Cloud because Apple thought the cloud was a feature. Apple should have bought Dropbox instead of having to rely on Google for their Cloud offering especially since they are talking about being a service company instead of a product company.

Re:Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as... by just_a_username on Monday July 01, 2019 @10:53AM (#20325839)
>Apple should have bought Dropbox

Apple did try to purchase Dropbox when Jobs was still around...

https://www.businessinsider.com/dropbox-ceo-drew-houston-on-...

Re:Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as... by gotrythis on Sunday June 30, 2019 @09:41AM (#20318145)
Wait - "by default"? Is there a way to fix the window switcher?

[Edit] Never mind, I see others volunteered info. Having come from Windows, I thought I was just stuck with the way things were. Fixing this today!