Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

Re:Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as... by robinmayfair on Friday June 28, 2019 @10:21AM (#20304537)

“Full Stop” is always a good argument. I have a USB-C card reader which I guarantee you is faster than the one you have.

Sure, internal card readers were nice. But they’re gone from Apple now. Really not sure why people keep talking about this.

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Re:Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as... by bin0 on Friday June 28, 2019 @11:07AM (#20305030)

Show me the SD card that can saturate USB 3 or USB C. The fastest sony cards top out at about 300Mbps. Heck, USB 2 could handle that at top speed (theoretically; most implementations stunk). USB C is better with really high bandwidth things like eGPU, 4k displays, etc., but sd cards are not the best argument to make here.

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Re:Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as... by FireBeyond on Friday June 28, 2019 @01:49PM (#20306951)

The fastest SD cards are 300 megabytes/second, not megabit. All my Sandisk Extreme Pro cards, for example. I also have a bunch of Extreme Pro CF cards that are 160MB/s.

And then there's CFast - speeds in the 400MB/s range.

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Re:Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as... by bin0 on Friday June 28, 2019 @02:08PM (#20307175)

Apologies, I messed up my capitalization. That ought to have been "MB". You're right that things like compact flash are faster, but USB 3 has can handle over 600 MB per second.

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Re:Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as... by FireBeyond on Friday June 28, 2019 @07:28PM (#20309685)

Right, but modern cards can certainly saturate USB 2.0 easily.

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Re:Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as... by 8note on Friday June 28, 2019 @03:32PM (#20308030)

you still need the card to support that speed though...

I'd imagine the card reader and USB are the same speed, unless they screwed up the implementation of the reader

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Re:Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as... by bin0 on Friday June 28, 2019 @07:24PM (#20309655)

Still not sure I understand what you mean. If you have a slower USB, slower card reader, or slower card, all components are bound by that speed. The USB 3 supports a much faster than the card speed; I'm guessing most readers are similar speed. The cards themselves are the limiting factor here.

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Re:Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as... by gridlockd on Friday June 28, 2019 @01:52PM (#20307000)

You're mixing up bits (Mb/s) and bytes (MB/s). Some SD cards are rated at up to 300MB/s, about 10x what USB2 can deliver.

It often used to be the case that internal SD card readers are USB2, even when the device has an USB3 port.

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Re:Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as... by xxs on Friday June 28, 2019 @10:51AM (#20304855)

>I have a USB-C card reader which I guarantee you is faster than the one you have.

an extremely and misguided guarantee - any usb 3.1 reader is likely to be similar/same

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Re:Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as... by gridlockd on Friday June 28, 2019 @10:59AM (#20304941)

Perhaps he's alluding to the fact that a lot of laptops have had USB2 card readers internally but USB 3 ports going out.

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