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Re:How Bad Are Things? (2015) by DoreenMichele on Thursday June 27, 2019 @01:13PM (#20296404)
Once, when I was whining about what a "tragedy" my life was, someone told me "Everyone thinks their life is a tragedy." That stuck with me.

I consider genuinely listening to merely be good manners. I have had to learn to be more stand-off-ish because this is apparently not some universal standard of good manners.

In fact, it's apparently some bizarre aberration that signals "use me" or something. All manner of people imagine I am the solution to their problem and I am required to fix their problem, all completely for free while they don't do anything whatsoever for me.

This was true even when I was literally homeless and going hungry.

I don't get it. At all. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Like, don't you have a conscience? A sense of social obligation? A sense of quid pro quo? The tiniest inkling that simply using me up and never ever giving back is likely to either alienate me or kill me and, either way, I will stop being a resource for you?

Re:How Bad Are Things? (2015) by SolaceQuantum on Thursday June 27, 2019 @01:51PM (#20296803)
Yes, I agree. People rarely intuitively understand obligation. We leave a lot of how social dynamics functions to the schoolyard and the act of socializing, which leaves many people undereducated on how to socialize. For some people this means being an awkward nerd. For others it means being an emotional leech.
Re:How Bad Are Things? (2015) by jack_h on Thursday June 27, 2019 @02:15PM (#20297039)
This describes my experiences in life very well. It's lead to a lot of social isolation, mistrust, and heart ache for me.

> All manner of people imagine I am the solution to their problem and I am required to fix their problem, all completely for free while they don't do anything whatsoever for me.

It's also been my experience that if you don't then suddenly you're being selfish, a jerk, etc. It's as if you're being judged by an entirely different metric of social acceptability.

Re:How Bad Are Things? (2015) by DoreenMichele on Thursday June 27, 2019 @02:27PM (#20297141)
Yes.

My two adult sons are the only people who have gotten it through their heads that if they value what I bring to the table, they need to be good to me and give me reason to stick around.

Everyone else seems to have some broken social concept of pecking order where being nice to them means you're their bitch and they are important, you are nothing and you are required to keep catering to them, no matter how badly they treat you. Like how when humans feed certain kinds of animals and now those animals think you owe them tribute forevermore.

Actually, this might explain a whole lot about ugly human history.

Meanwhile, in my life, my sons are the only people still close to me. Everyone else keeps being given their walking papers because, no, I'm not your bitch.

Re:How Bad Are Things? (2015) by lonelappde on Thursday June 27, 2019 @02:12PM (#20297002)
The version I heard is "If you knew X's problems, you wouldn't trade your problems for theirs." Not universally true, but goes a long way .

Another aphorism is, "some people are givers, others are takers". It's a function of personality, not resources or circumstances.