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Re:Bat-Killing Wind Turbines Outfitted with Systems to Stop ... by MikeFr on Thursday June 27, 2019 @12:58AM (#20291870)
Wind farms provide unstable power to the system; therefore from basic electric power systems theory(college level), you need to have a base station(coal or nuclear or gas) to provide stability to the system. Germany has not shut down any coal powered factory but they export any excess energy to nearby countries. Wind farms went up just for the investors sake and because of the "let's save the planet" fad. Look at your bill. If you did not provide subsidy to them through your bloated bill, the "investors" could not build wind farms. It is not economical, plus, you destroy the microclimate on mountain ridges where you put the wind farms. It's just another way to shaft the public

Check out these posts:

https://www.energieverite.com/post/lancement-du-collectif-%C...

Are renewables affecting income distribution and increasing the risk of household poverty? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BF1kms5myPTky4yWopKNGNHDLEQ...

Re:Bat-Killing Wind Turbines Outfitted with Systems to Stop ... by cr1895 on Thursday June 27, 2019 @08:09AM (#20293687)
>If you did not provide subsidy to them through your bloated bill, the "investors" could not build wind farms.

Your claim is easily refuted because subsidy-free wind farms are being built.

https://english.rvo.nl/news/netherlands-looks-forward-second...

Re:Bat-Killing Wind Turbines Outfitted with Systems to Stop ... by 7952 on Thursday June 27, 2019 @01:07PM (#20296345)
Of course subsidies are used to pay off investors. That's the whole point. Without a return no one was ever going to invest.
Re:Bat-Killing Wind Turbines Outfitted with Systems to Stop ... by MikeFr on Thursday June 27, 2019 @01:06AM (#20291894)
Also the following is in German: https://www.tichyseinblick.de/wirtschaft/hans-werner-sinn-ve...

Professor(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans-Werner_Sinn) says that moving to renewables will never work. Period

Re:Bat-Killing Wind Turbines Outfitted with Systems to Stop ... by imtringued on Thursday June 27, 2019 @09:58AM (#20294371)
That man just wants to see the world burn. The reality looks different. Maybe renewables will never reach 100% but 70% or 80% is still a worthwhile goal to strive for. Even if the remainder is powered purely by natural gas it still is a net benefit over coal.
Re:Bat-Killing Wind Turbines Outfitted with Systems to Stop ... by shaki-dora on Thursday June 27, 2019 @02:15AM (#20292143)
Some German has-been who is spending his retirement drifting off into right-wing populism isn't going to convince anybody.
Re:Bat-Killing Wind Turbines Outfitted with Systems to Stop ... by mkesper on Thursday June 27, 2019 @10:10AM (#20294501)
I'd like that to be true, but these people are very much influencing those that want their statements to be true (so they don't need change anything).
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Re:Bat-Killing Wind Turbines Outfitted with Systems to Stop ... by matchbok on Thursday June 27, 2019 @09:53AM (#20294322)
The complaints about subsidies are so tired. Try harder.
Re:Bat-Killing Wind Turbines Outfitted with Systems to Stop ... by shaki-dora on Thursday June 27, 2019 @07:40AM (#20293514)
Science: Batteries.