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Re:The West’s failed fight against China’s ‘Cloud Hopper’ ha... by vkou on Wednesday June 26, 2019 @12:01PM (#20286230)
'Whataboutism!' is a relevant response when someone brings up some unrelated problem of another country. For example, you are touring North Korea, see a broken escalator, ask the tour guide about it, and they say: 'But you are lynching Africans in America.'

When you bring up something quite related to the presented problem, that's not whataboutism.

Re:The West’s failed fight against China’s ‘Cloud Hopper’ ha... by mistermann on Wednesday June 26, 2019 @12:34PM (#20286584)
Ah I see, this makes sense.

In my experience, it's almost always used in the latter (incorrect) sense.

Re:The West’s failed fight against China’s ‘Cloud Hopper’ ha... by sbov on Wednesday June 26, 2019 @04:35PM (#20288866)
In a logical discussion whataboutism is never a relevant response. If something is bad it is bad if any side does it. But hypocrisy as a fallacy don't necessarily apply when discussing geopolitical power struggles. This is because people on one side using a tactic but not the other is usually a disadvantage, so when someone accuses you of hypocrisy they're basically saying that you're trying to get me to stop, but you won't, which will give you the upper hand, so... why should I stop?