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Re:I want a "plonk" button in Gmail by zalew on Tuesday December 21, 2010 @09:24AM (#2027779)
I am surprised that there are people that actually unsubscribe from newsletters. I never to that. Instead I filter out the sender from my Gmail

ummm, why surprised? why have your email in a database you don't want to use, or why have it send emails you won't read anyway? I think unsubscribing is fair for both sides.

Re:I want a "plonk" button in Gmail by kolinko on Tuesday December 21, 2010 @09:34AM (#2027839)
it takes time to unsubscribe, sometimes it's not that easy and sometimes "unsubscribe" is not respected (or mysterious "server error prevents me from unsubscribing) - of course that's not the case of yahoo groups or google groups, but there are quite a few companies that do that.
Re:I want a "plonk" button in Gmail by grantheaslip on Tuesday December 21, 2010 @10:40AM (#2028082)
The vast majority of the time it's a one or two click process. A few sites require you to log in to change your email preferences, but they're few and far between.

The one exception I can think of off the top of my head is MTV Networks, who got a hold of my email somehow and won't stop spamming me, even after I've unsubscribed at least a dozen times.

Re:I want a "plonk" button in Gmail by kolinko on Tuesday December 21, 2010 @11:15AM (#2028213)
That's what I'm talking about. We are hackers. Why should we settle for a mediocre solution (like fighting with MTV from time to time) when there is a better around the corner?
Re:I want a "plonk" button in Gmail by mcav on Tuesday December 21, 2010 @11:36AM (#2028306)
A better solution isn't to just block all unwanted messages... a better solution would attempt to unsubscribe, and only if that doesn't work, block the sender.
Re:I want a "plonk" button in Gmail by yummyfajitas on Tuesday December 21, 2010 @11:51AM (#2028362)
A better solution is one button which both attempts to automatically unsubscribe, and blocks further emails if the list does not respect the user's choice.

Why should I have to do extra work just because MTV is hostile to users? Or because Hallmark's database takes 10 days to update, gamespot's unsubscribe servers are permanently broken, or because some crappy website demands your login info?

http://imgur.com/mzqKk http://imgur.com/Yn5eD http://i.imgur.com/yoky5.jpg

Re:I want a "plonk" button in Gmail by idive on Tuesday December 21, 2010 @01:13PM (#2028691)
Google's Report Spam button is actually pretty close to that. If the message has a List-Unsubscribe header, it offers to use that after hitting the Spam button.

And usually they don't really take 10 days, but that's the limit the law permits so they give themselves as much wiggle room as possible.

Re:I want a "plonk" button in Gmail by Bud on Tuesday December 21, 2010 @12:06PM (#2028416)
I agree with yummyfajitas' take. My rebuttals to some of the other comments in this thread so far:

1. It's not "harsh" to mark anything as spam in your email; the only person it affects is you. The sender will not, of course, even know whether you've classified their stuff as spam.

2. Some commenters are claiming that it's not that much extra effort to visit the sender's site and unsubscribe yourself. This is manifestly not always the case, and more to the point, the user does not KNOW in advance whether it will be the case, when starting the process. However, hitting a plonk button in your mail client will always have a known time-suck-factor in advance.

3. Hitting a plonk button is also, of course, guaranteed to be at least one page-load and one click easier than any possible solution involving visiting a sender's website. Even if there's an unsub link in the spammy email itself, a plonk button is still one page-load less, and easier to find from a UI standpoint. So in sum, plonk is guaranteed to win from on ease of use. Not even a debatable question.

4. Some argue that taking time to unsubscribe yourself via the sender's website is just "the right thing to do", given that you subscribed to their emails in the first place. It seems to me that it should be incumbent on the marketer, not the customer, to make unsubscribing as easy as possible, and to "do the right thing". This should be the default.

Re:I want a "plonk" button in Gmail by xtho on Tuesday December 21, 2010 @12:23PM (#2028487)
ad 1. I'm not sure if this is the case for gmail but when you use a spam filter that is fed by many people there is a chance that you're classification of that mail as spam affects other people. If you use some sort of self-adapting, learning spam filter, you will be affected too because you mark mail as spam that looks like normal mail.

To put it simple: the spam button is for spam = unwanted mass mails, mostly ads. For unwanted mail from specific users, you should create a filter.

My personal take on this though is: People who found out how to subscribe to a mailing list, should also be able to unsubscribe.

Re:I want a "plonk" button in Gmail by pbhjpbhj on Wednesday December 22, 2010 @06:56AM (#2031102)
>To put it simple: the spam button is for spam = unwanted mass mails

Spam is unsolicited. If you've signed up for a newsletter, or similar, then you've requested the messages.

Re:I want a "plonk" button in Gmail by idive on Tuesday December 21, 2010 @01:10PM (#2028677)
For what it's worth, it is actually illegal for US-based companies to require a login or any other nonsense to unsubscribe. CAN-SPAM (for all its many faults) is actually pretty specific about making unsubscribing from a newsletter very easy.
Re:I want a "plonk" button in Gmail by camiller on Tuesday December 21, 2010 @10:23AM (#2028033)
Most of the time when I unsubscribe it is easy and respected by the sender. When it is not I resort to the gmail filters as a backup.