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Re:The BS-Industrial Complex of Phony A.I. by TheOtherHobbes on Tuesday June 25, 2019 @03:47AM (#20271957)
Like the intellectual equivalent of a beast of burden - good at solving open problems by (apparently) intuiting connections and making inferences, probably with the appearance of creative operation and experimental learning, but lacking any genuine desire or personal agency.

IMO this is much more plausible as AGI than some kind of mythical general meta-intelligence that has a virtual soul.

I don't see why consciousness or agency are at all necessary for AGI - except as a science fiction trope.

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Re:The BS-Industrial Complex of Phony A.I. by eli_gottlieb on Tuesday June 25, 2019 @10:18AM (#20274416)
Besides which, consciousness and agency are two different things, damnit! I've got a github repo in which I train agents by policy optimization. I have no illusions that my Pytorch models are conscious.
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Re:The BS-Industrial Complex of Phony A.I. by lsc on Tuesday June 25, 2019 @04:31AM (#20272164)
>good at solving open problems by (apparently) intuiting connections and making inferences, probably with the appearance of creative operation and experimental learning, but lacking any genuine desire or personal agency.

so, like a philosophical zombie? like something that appears to be conscious but isn't?

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