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Re:We moved to Turkey from San Francisco to continue working... by natalyarostova on Monday June 24, 2019 @12:21PM (#20265170)
They spend vast amounts of money on the problem, but the way they approach the problem makes the solution intractable. To the extent the drug addicted and severely mentally ill homeless can want things, and want the right to continue their current life, they are afforded that right. That is to say, it is their fundamental right to use drugs, live, and defecate on the street (I know these things are illegal, but really, legality is determined by enforcement, not what is on the books. And as far as enforcement goes, these things are legal for all intents and purposes).

So long as they don't want help, and so long as it is their right to refuse and continue as they are, nothing will change. The alternatives are many, but they all start with some type of enforcement agency willingly stripping these peoples rights, and forcibly and potentially violently taking them into government custody, which the citizens of San Francisco find far more appalling than solving the problem.

Note: What I said above doesn't generalize to 'the homeless,' and people out of a job and down on their luck, It specifically is targeted to the worst offenders who scatter the city with waste and needles.

Re:We moved to Turkey from San Francisco to continue working... by silvestrov on Monday June 24, 2019 @12:36PM (#20265389)
SF spends $250 million in 2017. 1/3 on actual homeless, 2/3 on preventing homelessness (e.g. rental subsidies).

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/heatherknight/article/Bu...

Re:We moved to Turkey from San Francisco to continue working... by rolltiide on Monday June 24, 2019 @12:56PM (#20265650)
other rich areas violate civil rights. when people say "take care of it" they mean "we'll tolerate wild indiscretions"
Re:We moved to Turkey from San Francisco to continue working... by bluGill on Monday June 24, 2019 @12:50PM (#20265568)
That doesn't mean those programs are effective. Lots has been written on both sides of the political aisle on this.
Re:We moved to Turkey from San Francisco to continue working... by kradroy on Monday June 24, 2019 @12:39PM (#20265433)
There was a good article comparing and contrasting the way San Francisco County and San Mateo County handle their homeless. Summary is that both are a bit extreme (SM jails homeless for petty crime; SF basically does nothing, even in murder cases) and the middle ground is probably what will work. The question is how SF gets there.

SF's recent bill to involuntarily commit chronically mentally ill individuals is a step in the right direction, but it's so toothless that it won't matter much. An individual has to be brought to inpatient mental services 8 times in a year to trigger the rule. Why bother?