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Re:If Facebook or Google create their own currency, they can... by samdung on Monday June 24, 2019 @06:24AM (#20261989)
You do a one time exchange of your Government issued currency for Libra. Then you start exchanging Libra for goods and services in a p2p way == which means Governments can't tax these goods and services == which means Governments will no longer have the power == which means they will not allow it.

(I have not read the Libra papers fully. Im doing a far speculation here.)

Re:If Facebook or Google create their own currency, they can... by lukevdp on Monday June 24, 2019 @06:26AM (#20262006)
You’re forgetting that governments regulate the companies behind Libra, and can and will regulate it.
Re:If Facebook or Google create their own currency, they can... by Yizahi on Monday June 24, 2019 @06:39AM (#20262069)
Which is why FB tried to pretend that they aren't involved by creating a fictional offshore "foundation" (Calibra). But that won't help them anyway. Offshore "foundations" are not get out of jail card.
Re:If Facebook or Google create their own currency, they can... by np_tedious on Monday June 24, 2019 @10:16AM (#20263708)
"Libra" is the ostensibly independent / consortium organization in Switzerland. "Calibra" is a wholly owned Facebook subsidiary
Re:If Facebook or Google create their own currency, they can... by mschuster91 on Monday June 24, 2019 @06:33AM (#20262030)
> You’re forgetting that governments regulate the companies behind Libra, and can and will regulate it.

Well... let's say you're a politician wanting to regulate Facebook, and let's say you have an affair with whom you communicate on Facebook or in Instagram DMs. If I were Facebook, I'd simply let an investigation team check if any dirt can be mined out of the troves of data - anything, even the dataset of GPS or other location pinpoints, can be enough to get a first hint. And now I discretely contact you and advise that there may be information around and that it would be a pity if that information were to get public.

This is the ultimate problem with the size and capabilities that companies such as Facebook have.

Re:If Facebook or Google create their own currency, they can... by lelima on Monday June 24, 2019 @06:41AM (#20262080)
>> I'd simply let an investigation team check if any dirt can be mined out of the troves of data

That's Dark and Illegal

Re:If Facebook or Google create their own currency, they can... by graphGL on Monday June 24, 2019 @06:48AM (#20262116)
Yeah, Facebook would never do anything dark and illegal
Re:If Facebook or Google create their own currency, they can... by pbhjpbhj on Monday June 24, 2019 @08:14AM (#20262696)
You're just trying to entice Facebook in to doing it, aren't you. ;o)
Re:If Facebook or Google create their own currency, they can... by cr0sh on Monday June 24, 2019 @10:42AM (#20263974)
> And now I discretely contact you and advise that there may be information around and that it would be a pity if that information were to get public.

Is this really a threat any longer? I mean, Stormy Daniels, $130k payoff pre-election, etc and all...

Re:If Facebook or Google create their own currency, they can... by flycaliguy on Monday June 24, 2019 @11:46AM (#20264716)
Usually when blackmailing a politician, the whole affair thing is a negotiated middle ground.
Re:If Facebook or Google create their own currency, they can... by woodpanel on Monday June 24, 2019 @06:37AM (#20262057)
That’s why the Libra Association is being set up in Switzerland.
Re:If Facebook or Google create their own currency, they can... by brainwad on Monday June 24, 2019 @07:23AM (#20262325)
> which means Governments can't tax these goods and services

That's not true at all. Cash has the same problem of undeclared transactions, but the tax mostly still manages to get collected. If anything, the fact that Libra transactions will leave an electronic record makes it more likely that tax will get paid.

Re:If Facebook or Google create their own currency, they can... by jki275 on Monday June 24, 2019 @08:17AM (#20262715)
I would hypothesize that cash transactions -- at least peer to peer transactions -- in general do not get taxed.

It's axiomatic that cryptocurrency transactions are rarely taxed, most people have not paid taxes on those transactions. The IRS is certainly trying to tax them, and the electronic ledger function of (some) cryptocurrencies will make it easier to track them under some circumstances than cash. That may change as time goes on -- I'm not sure enough how libra is implemented to have an opinion on that yet.

Re:If Facebook or Google create their own currency, they can... by ascagnel_ on Monday June 24, 2019 @08:32AM (#20262841)
Even that opens another avenue of enforcement -- Al Capone was brought down on tax evasion charges, since all his earnings were from cash-only "transactions".