Visual Basic: Not as Shiny, Still as Viable

Re:Visual Basic: Not as Shiny, Still as Viable by Davertron on Sunday June 23, 2019 @09:22PM (#20259842)

> Node.js, as a language, is almost worthless without its immense open-source ecosystem. You won’t find any real-world applications running on Node without the use of dozens or hundreds of npm libraries simply because Node is not useful in and of itself.

Nonsense. It's a general-purpose programming language like any other. JavaScript isn't my favorite language in the world, and I agree that there are a lot of packages that make working in it a lot nicer, but come on.

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Re:Visual Basic: Not as Shiny, Still as Viable by gridlockd on Monday June 24, 2019 @01:08PM (#20265806)

If the ecosystem doesn't matter at least as much the language, why isn't Deno taking the world by storm, given that it fixes a lot of Node's problems and that it supports Typescript natively, which is a "better Javascript"?

Deno by itself isn't useless, but without an ecosystem, it clearly isn't that useful either.

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Re:Visual Basic: Not as Shiny, Still as Viable by kgwxd on Sunday June 23, 2019 @11:10PM (#20260159)

I think the point is fair, but you could substitute "Node.js" with any language, and "npm" with "Standard Library/Underlying Framework". The ecosystem is as important as the language.

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