Re:Cement Produces More Pollution Than All the Trucks in the...
by dantondwa on Sunday June 23, 2019 @04:19PM
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Yeah, I agree with what you are saying. This approach has put all the responsibility on the individual and has comfortably concealed the fact that a problem of this scale must be approached from above and in a systemic way. Yes, individuals can make a difference, in mass. So can laws that force them to act in a certain way and laws which actually touch the interests of the big polluters. Making the powerless majority feel guilty about their insignificant choices is not the solution, and it is just a way to not face the responsability of the big and influential culprits.
Re:Cement Produces More Pollution Than All the Trucks in the...
by valw on Sunday June 23, 2019 @02:09PM
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> f' off about calling people "the most severe cause of climate change" for eating a beef sandwich without considering anything else. It's unhelpful, provocative, and completely incorrect.
That's an entire mischaracterization of my argument, which was about willingness to change one's lifestyle in general, not specifically about eating a beef sandwich.
Re:Cement Produces More Pollution Than All the Trucks in the...
by jodrellblank on Sunday June 23, 2019 @08:33PM
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As in recent headline, Carnival Cruise Lines emit more pollution than all the cars in Europe[1].
Ten times more.
And I'm "with blunt honesty: an instance of the most severe cause of climate change"?
No. Just so much no.
[1] https://www.insidehook.com/daily_brief/news-opinion/carnival...
I don't have children, I don't drive them to school in a SUV or to a holiday in DisneyWorld, I have never launched a SpaceX rocket, or lived on my own in a full size house. I have never been on a cruise. I don't live or work in an air-conditioned place.
To put it bluntly, f' off about calling people "the most severe cause of climate change" for eating a beef sandwich without considering anything else. It's unhelpful, provocative, and completely incorrect.
I didn't attend an international destination wedding this year, which a lot of my family did. How many bacon sandwiches does that earn me compared to my family?
If your answer is none because climate change is a global catastrophe and everyone has to pitch in, then what incentive does that give anyone? If any carbon slack of my reduced comfort is just getting eaten up by other people's indifference, aren't I better off being indifferent as well?