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Re:Give Firefox a chance by latexr on Sunday June 23, 2019 @10:45AM (#20255865)
Don’t hold me to this, but I think you may be able to build Webkit from source, giving you a functional browser.

I think Chromium is to Chrome as Webkit is to Safari. The latter have proprietary code on top of the open-source former.

Re:Give Firefox a chance by bbernoulli on Sunday June 23, 2019 @11:28AM (#20256188)
Blink is to Chromium/Chrome as Webkit is to Safari

Webkit and blink are browser engines and Chromium/Chrome are both browsers, but Chromium doesn't include the closed source pieces that Chrome does.

Re:Give Firefox a chance by latexr on Sunday June 23, 2019 @11:47AM (#20256323)
> Webkit and blink are browser engines

Petty sure Webkit is also a browser you can build and run, like Chromium.

Re:Give Firefox a chance by floatboth on Sunday June 23, 2019 @01:29PM (#20257166)
No, WebKit is an engine. It ships with small demo browsers for some platforms (minibrowser for gtk, at least) but that's it.

You might be confused by Apple calling its nightly Safari builds "WebKit technical preview" or whatever. It (used to) show up as "WebKit.app", but it's literally Apple Safari.

Re:Give Firefox a chance by saagarjha on Sunday June 23, 2019 @02:33PM (#20257694)
"Safari" is a proprietary browser that uses WebKit, which is open source. Safari Technology Preview (purple Safari) and WebKit.app (black Safari) are just Safari, but with the WebKit swapped out through various methods. Oh, and MiniBrowser works on macOS as well.
Re:Give Firefox a chance by floatboth on Sunday June 23, 2019 @04:28PM (#20258458)
> WebKit.app (black Safari) are just Safari, but with the WebKit swapped out through various methods

yes, that's exactly what I said

Re:Give Firefox a chance by saagarjha on Sunday June 23, 2019 @04:33PM (#20258489)
You seemed to conflate Safari Technology Preview with the WebKit nightlies, when they are in fact different things and structured differently and used for different things (the former acts much more like a "standalone Safari" than does the latter, which is essentially just the WebKit frameworks loaded in to your existing Safari).
Re:Give Firefox a chance by latexr on Sunday June 23, 2019 @02:03PM (#20257459)
> You might be confused by Apple calling its nightly Safari builds "WebKit technical preview" or whatever. It (used to) show up as "WebKit.app", but it's literally Apple Safari.

Probably that, yes.

Re:Give Firefox a chance by saagarjha on Sunday June 23, 2019 @02:34PM (#20257711)
Chromium is a pretty functional browser in and of itself; WebKit does not ship with this. Pretty much all of Safari's UI is not open source.