Rome is Zen 2. You have absolutely no clue whatsoever how it performs. It may still have the weaknesses of Zen 1, but it very well might not. AMD made a bunch of changes, including a complete overhaul of the memory system (no more NUMA).

We'll know for sure when the product is actually out and we have independent benchmarks, but at this point you're just making things up and stating them as facts.

That aside Epyc was already ahead on real high-end workloads like povray or NAMD ( http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/namd/ ). Epyc also puts up top numbers on compilation performance and OpenSSL. So it already isn't as black & white as you're pretending anyway. MySQL/DMBS is not the only server workload that exists, even though it may be the only workload you specifically care about.

Don’t assume everyone suffers from the same ignorance that you suffer. The buyers in a position to get early samples of Rome are not paying retail prices on Intel.

And those players have already announced AMD is being added to their offerings: https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/amd/

> on real high-end workloads like DBMSs

DBMSs are normally IO constrained or memory constrained, or lack-of-index index constrained or query-plan-gone-mental-from-cardinality-misestimation constrained, or others. It's very unusual IME to find one that is CPU constrained. Bringing up DBs in this context is peculiar to say the least.

I've literally just lost 20 hours trying to debug a query that intermittently ran many times too slow. It was a memory misconfiguration. Extra CPU is at best a bandage over these kinds of problems, at worst, just wasted.

That used to be true for original EPYC but might not be true for Rome (outside AVX-512 workloads). IMO it's more due to continuous Apple + Intel collaboration and supply chain, AMD not being able to supply large market (they share TSMC with Apple for their CPUs), and overall unknown situation for AMD (will they stick with what they do now or abort?). If AMD just matches single thread performance of 9900k, there's not much point in switching. And Apple already uses their GPUs anyway, even if NVidia is still much better.

Sources?