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Re:America has never gone this long without hiking the feder... by justizin on Wednesday June 19, 2019 @02:51PM (#20226117)
If that is true, which, as an american, i don't really care if that was the goal of the american project, it has demonstrably failed and we should act in the interest of human rights.

put otherwise - some people are working 2-3 jobs in order to feed, house, and clothe their children and it still is not enough. i have no ears for any principled argument in favor of the current state of things.

Re:America has never gone this long without hiking the feder... by cal5k on Wednesday June 19, 2019 @03:43PM (#20226625)
How has it demonstrably failed? America is the wealthiest, most successful, most powerful country in human history.
Re:America has never gone this long without hiking the feder... by FussyZeus on Thursday June 20, 2019 @04:08PM (#20236817)
We're definitely the wealthiest. Our power is slipping thanks to awful foreign policy, and success is limited. We've been successful in generating massive amounts of wealth, but our standard of living isn't great compared with many other countries, and despite our wealth, our middle class is shrinking, and we have more homeless than ever, many of whom are veterans. And that's not even going into how a huge amount of our wealth can be directly traced to extremely exploitative attitudes and actions concerning other countries.

There's a lot to be proud of but there's also a lot to be ashamed of.