WakeMates are ready

Re:WakeMates are ready by natrius on Sunday December 19, 2010 @12:03AM (#2021144)

Your answer to the second question should show a little less certainty unless you have a study to link to. I think the original commenter gets that you're just waking up a little earlier, but consistently doing that every day isn't natural. Sure, neither are alarm clocks in general, but there are probably studies about those. This is a special case of alarm clock that could, in theory, have different long-term effects.

There are probably legal issues with your claim as well. I'd just say that it's very unlikely to have adverse effects instead of "it is completely free of adverse affects".

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Re:WakeMates are ready by spydertennis on Sunday December 19, 2010 @12:20AM (#2021175)

I agree that it is not a good idea to make blanket statements. I have edited my original comment.

The WakeMate wakes you similarly to how you would wake if you did not set an alarm. That is why it is very unlikely to have adverse effects.

Regarding your comment: "I think the original commenter gets that you're just waking up a little earlier, but consistently doing that every day isn't natural." It may just be because I'm familiar with the product but it doesn't seem to me that setting your alarm for 9:00am and waking at 8:55am can be construed as unnatural.

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Re:WakeMates are ready by natrius on Sunday December 19, 2010 @01:11AM (#2021242)

If the product works really, really well and users end up waking up at the optimal time the vast majority of the time, that may (or may not) be different from the conditions in which we evolved and the various adaptations we've made since then that are better studied. It could have some sort of adverse effect. It's very unlikely.

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Re:WakeMates are ready by sciboy on Sunday December 19, 2010 @01:14AM (#2021247)

What is the confidence interval for the size of the effect that wakemate produces on percieved grogginess vs waking without wakemate?

What is the size of the effect in the research?

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Re:WakeMates are ready by tptacek on Sunday December 19, 2010 @12:09PM (#2021999)

Kinda going off the rails here. We get it: WakeMate is not rigorous peer-reviewed science.

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Re:WakeMates are ready by sciboy on Tuesday December 21, 2010 @07:18AM (#2027574)

I disagree. He makes two unsupported claims that reek of cargo-culting:

"1. The optimal wake feature reduces daytime grogginess only in the sense that it puts you in a better mood in the morning. 2. Yes it is very unlikely to have adverse effects. You are just waking a little bit earlier at a point where your body feels more inclined to wake up."

Two claims. No data from either published literature (from other studies) or their own data. How do they even know it works? Why should we treat it any differently than claims of magnets improving your sleep? A free pass shouldn't be granted just because they are YC.

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