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Re:Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles by celticmusic on Monday June 17, 2019 @01:00PM (#20204977)
a thousand times this.

A year or two ago I considered buying another car after I had a fedex semi hit me (turning left from a stop, not dangerous). I drive a 2004 corolla and love toyota, but the guy looked at me like I had grown frog legs when I asked if they had any models without the touchscreen.

It was actually a major decision in me keeping my vehicle. I do NOT like the touchscreen, to me it's a complete no-brainer that it's more dangerous. I sure as shit don't want to be clicking through crap while driving.

When I was in HS I had a friend whose family had a couple of toyota vehicles. One of them was a small orange truck from the 70's I think. That thing looked like absolute crap, but ran beautifully. The only thing that finally killed that vehicle was their son going around a curve too quickly in the rain and rolling it. It's why I decided to buy toyota and I'm 100% happy with it.

But this touchscreen issue is a big enough issue in my mind that I may start researching Mazda. I seriously do not want a damned touchscreen in my car.

Re:Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles by blacksmith_tb on Monday June 17, 2019 @02:27PM (#20205962)
The giant but not very useful 11in touchscreen in my 2017 Toyota Prius Prime can just be turned off. No really vital functions live in there, it's mostly the (iffy) GPS and settings like the audio source, which I don't need to change much. Almost all the normal things, like temp, lights, cruise etc. are still accessible via physical controls.
Re:Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles by celticmusic on Monday June 17, 2019 @02:38PM (#20206050)
I think the big one for me would be radio and temp. I assume no one in their right mind would put lights or cruise control behind a touch screen, but I could be wrong there.

And maybe part of it is me being set in my old man ways, but I don't want a touch screen for any of that. Probably the only 2 things I can see being useful on that screen are the reverse camera and GPS that talks to you and you can glance at it occasionally.

Anything else should have real controls.

Re:Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles by JaggedNZ on Monday June 17, 2019 @04:32PM (#20207037)
Just brought the 2019 RAV 4 Hybrid a few months ago, but also test drove the Corolla. The US models differ, but I'm pretty sure the UX is pretty consistent.

The A/C on both vehicles is 100% physical controls, no touch screen required, in fact I've yet to see an A/C option on any of the touch screen menus.

Yes, the radio is mostly configured via the touch screen, but skipping stations / tracks and volume are controllable via controls on the steering wheel and a physical volume knob on the dash. We don't have carplay yet, but I think it is in the US, this might make my moot, but my main complaint is that it can be quite delayed in starting to play my itunes. I suspect this is because my phone is the secondary audio device (I usually let my wife pick/control the music), but thats a minor annoyance at most.

Edit: 6.3l/100km 37.3mpg on Hilly -> Urban commute in an SUV :)

Re:Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles by PascLeRasc on Tuesday June 18, 2019 @11:17AM (#20214031)
I'm a "millennial" (25) and I don't want a touch screen either. Car companies just can't make a phone as well as phone companies do. It's not about if the touch screen can be ignored, I specifically want to not have one, like how I don't want RGB lights on a computer or a Windows key on a keyboard, even if I can just ignore them.
Re:Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles by Rebelgecko on Monday June 17, 2019 @02:53PM (#20206189)
I think Teslas make you use the touchscreen for adjusting the cruise control speed
Re:Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles by zaroth on Monday June 17, 2019 @03:17PM (#20206380)
This is incorrect. In fact you cannot adjust the cruise speed via the touch screen at all.

Apparently this was actually changed in an early software update to the TM3, and cruise initially was engaged via the screen though!

https://interestingengineering.com/tesla-moves-autopilot-con...

Re:Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles by jaxn on Tuesday June 18, 2019 @01:12AM (#20209966)
You can still adjust the cruise speed via touchscreen. There is a plus/minus on either side of the displayed cruise speed.
Re:Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles by zaroth on Tuesday June 18, 2019 @02:23PM (#20216581)
Well shit, I never noticed that!
Re:Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles by _1 on Monday June 17, 2019 @03:41PM (#20206580)
Not on the Model 3, it's a physical knob on the steering wheel.
Re:Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles by Rebelgecko on Tuesday June 18, 2019 @02:00PM (#20216204)
Re:Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles by jaxn on Thursday June 20, 2019 @06:05AM (#20231346)
It is outdated.

You can use the screen as described, but it is much quicker to roll the right steering wheel button up/down to adjust TACC speed. You can also push it left/right to adjust follow distance.

I rarely touch the screen while driving my Model 3 (or while my Model 3 is driving me).

Re:Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles by jacurtis on Wednesday June 19, 2019 @08:53AM (#20222817)
Just something to consider is that Toyota panels do have external controls that allow you to use the panel without the touchscreen.

I have a 2016 Toyota Corolla, and the entertainment system is a touchscreen, but I haven't touched it in years. There are several knobs and buttons located around the screen and on the steering wheel that provide full control over the functions, without needing to physically touch the screen.

Maybe they have changes this in the last 3 years, but at least the 2016 models do have physical controls that are duplicated both on the entertainment panel and the steering wheel.

While there is a touchscreen, you don't need to touch it.

Re:Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles by celticmusic on Friday June 21, 2019 @09:08AM (#20242173)
that's good to know