Re:Pomegranate compound with anti-aging effects passes human...
by Circuits on Monday June 17, 2019 @09:57AM
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So there are products on the market already or no one has a product on the market yet?
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Re:Pomegranate compound with anti-aging effects passes human...
by gpm on Monday June 17, 2019 @10:11AM
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Quite possibly pomegranate... It's unclear how much it has though.
Re:Pomegranate compound with anti-aging effects passes human...
by gpm on Monday June 17, 2019 @10:30AM
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From the Wikipedia link someone else posted it looks like 100g of pomegranate is approximately 250mg, so 200g pomegranates a day to get to the point where they saw any (non clinical still) effects.
Re:Pomegranate compound with anti-aging effects passes human...
by strainer on Monday June 17, 2019 @11:09AM
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Your statement reads as though the research tested lower doses and 500mg was the lowest which "saw any effects". Is this accurate?
Re:Pomegranate compound with anti-aging effects passes human...
by gpm on Monday June 17, 2019 @08:31PM
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Yes, specifically 250mg saw none (or at least no statistically significant ones).
Re:Pomegranate compound with anti-aging effects passes human...
by strainer on Tuesday June 18, 2019 @11:04AM
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Thanks, I hadn't time to check.
Re:Pomegranate compound with anti-aging effects passes human...
by akimball on Monday June 17, 2019 @12:41PM
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There are raspberries and pomegranates on the market, yes.
Re:Pomegranate compound with anti-aging effects passes human...
by arkades on Monday June 17, 2019 @10:03AM
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Phase 1 study. Years from market.
Re:Pomegranate compound with anti-aging effects passes human...
by ConcernedCoder on Monday June 17, 2019 @10:11AM
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...or we could just start eating Pomegranates?
Re:Pomegranate compound with anti-aging effects passes human...
by arkades on Monday June 17, 2019 @10:23AM
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If they’ve raised capital for a series of clinical trials, you can reasonably assume the doses at which they expect to see clinical effects are much higher than you’re likely to get just from food ingestion - otherwise their competition would just be pomegranate juice pills or something, sold as a food supplement and requiring no trials of safety or efficacy. They’d never have been able to raise a cent.
In other words, no one would fund a penicillin trial if they thought people could get by eating moldy bread from GNC.
Re:Pomegranate compound with anti-aging effects passes human...
by derefr on Monday June 17, 2019 @10:33AM
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I don’t know. The dose of broccoli you need to see clinical effects from the sulforaphane it contains is extremely high, but concentrated sulforaphane capsules are sold as a food supplement without needing to go through any FDA process.
What criterion does the FDA use to distinguish a food-derived chemical that needs to be treated as a drug, from one that’s still just seen as an extract/essence of the food itself, and therefore can be treated as a supplement? It seems very opaque to me.
Re:Pomegranate compound with anti-aging effects passes human...
by egypturnash on Monday June 17, 2019 @12:06PM
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First we should see if this study was funded by that one giant pomegranate farm in California.
If Wikipedia is correct, we should start eating yellow raspberries instead; they offer about seven times as much of the compound this study is investigating the effects of. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urolithin_A#Dietary_sources
Re:Pomegranate compound with anti-aging effects passes human...
by DoofusOfDeath on Monday June 17, 2019 @10:17AM
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We can "just" start eating Pomegranates, absolutely. Personally, I find them pretty tasty, and they remind me of the Greek myth of Persephone's abduction by Hades. So I'm all for them.
But how much you'd need to eat for a clinically noteworthy benefit is the question. That's what the follow-on studies are for.
Re:Pomegranate compound with anti-aging effects passes human...
by DSingularity on Monday June 17, 2019 @10:36AM
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The article states that Urolithin-A is not produced by everybody. That acid in these fruits needs to be converted to UA in our gut. So no, it’s not always as simple as eating these fruits.
Re:Pomegranate compound with anti-aging effects passes human...
by strainer on Monday June 17, 2019 @11:19AM
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However at the same time, the gut is so confoundingly complicated that substances in concentrated tablet form are often less readily absorbed than less concentrated amounts occurring in food.