Most of the marketing industry is just as honest as most of the tech industry.
In fact, it's far easier to argue that many products labeled as "tech" are far more manipulative than your average marketing agency.
Yes. Both are generally pretty dishonest. Pointing to another industry's guilt doesn't make the first industry innocent.
Are you disagreeing with my example? How many companies actually DON'T try to trick people into giving them their mailing address, and then stockpile the emails?
I read this more as an incentive to improve, not as a requirement to operate.
The people actually fighting for these principles are Richard Stallman types that Hacker News generally considers fringe nuts. Talking about openness and honesty (as defined in this manifesto) at Hacker News is like talking about clean fuels at the place where people go to burn tires.
I'm not criticizing the manifesto. I'm criticizing Hacker News and hypocrisy here.
If you required "open" and "honest" as defined by the manifesto, almost the entire marketing industry and the industries it supports would have to shut down. Even supposedly-altruistic nonprofits are tricking people into subscribing to their mailing lists and then stockpiling the emails in opaque databases these days.