Re:U.S. Escalates Online Attacks on Russia’s Power Grid
by holoduke on Saturday June 15, 2019 @06:00PM
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It's part of a larger game these nations are playing.
There will not be a war between Russia and the US. Not with China who is ultimately the enemy of both Russia and the US.
These incidents are meant to keep each other awake.
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Re:U.S. Escalates Online Attacks on Russia’s Power Grid
by jacquesm on Saturday June 15, 2019 @08:17PM
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It sets the stage for a false flag operation where the Chinese disable Russia's power infrastructure making it look like it was America.
Re:U.S. Escalates Online Attacks on Russia’s Power Grid
by hmage on Saturday June 15, 2019 @08:43PM
(#20193120)
False flag operations aren't new concept, taking out Ukraine's power plants for a few hours could also be false flag operation with Russia not even involved as a pretext to get more military funding. Or russian links to Trump a false flag operation by some third party to install their own president. I've seen russia used as a scary monster so often I always think "who does _actually_ benefit from this" whenever russia comes up in news headlines.
Re:U.S. Escalates Online Attacks on Russia’s Power Grid
by zzzcpan on Saturday June 15, 2019 @08:49PM
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> taking out Ukraine's power plants for a few hours
That didn't actually happen.
Re:U.S. Escalates Online Attacks on Russia’s Power Grid
by mycall on Saturday June 15, 2019 @07:15PM
(#20192791)
This depends. If blackouts start happening, the situation could escalate to war pretty fast.
Re:U.S. Escalates Online Attacks on Russia’s Power Grid
by yasp on Saturday June 15, 2019 @07:26PM
(#20192829)
Plus, what if multiple state actors penetrate a system and each lay their own "implants"? Mutually assuredly destruction only works if you can attribute an attack. Unless you're planning on destroying non-guilty actors too. What if NK, China, and Russia all hack the same system and then eventually the system fails catastrophically as a result of malware and no one takes credit. How could the US respond? What if the perpetrator were an adversary that wasn't even known to have penetrated the system?
Re:U.S. Escalates Online Attacks on Russia’s Power Grid
by mirimir on Saturday June 15, 2019 @08:42PM
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True. The perpetrator could be some kid, doing it for lulz.
Edit: As in "WarGames".
Re:U.S. Escalates Online Attacks on Russia’s Power Grid
by majos on Saturday June 15, 2019 @09:26PM
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What do you mean by "these incidents are meant to keep each other awake"? Why would you want to keep a competitor awake?
Re:U.S. Escalates Online Attacks on Russia’s Power Grid
by PhasmaFelis on Sunday June 16, 2019 @12:36AM
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Keep them wary, so they don't get overconfident and try something that both sides will wind up regretting.
Re:U.S. Escalates Online Attacks on Russia’s Power Grid
by manigandham on Sunday June 16, 2019 @06:16AM
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More of a show of force. The same way militaries physically project power to let the other side know what's possible.