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Re:The Truth About Tonkin (2008) by hurrdurr2 on Friday June 14, 2019 @04:59PM (#20186633)
Somewhat related is this latest supposed attack by Iranians on the two Japanese tankers... now one of the Japanese tanker owners is saying it was a projectile while US Centcom says it's limpet mines.
Re:The Truth About Tonkin (2008) by maxxxxx on Friday June 14, 2019 @05:23PM (#20186778)
We definitely don't want to get into another situation like after 9/11 when some people did everything they could to connect Iraq to 9/11 so they could invade. Not sure if there are people right now who are hellbent to go to war Iran. I hope not.
Re:The Truth About Tonkin (2008) by twothumbsup on Friday June 14, 2019 @05:31PM (#20186825)
> Not sure if there are people right now who are hellbent to go to war Iran. I hope not.

Their name is John Bolton and they're the National Security Advisor of the USA.

Re:The Truth About Tonkin (2008) by danharaj on Friday June 14, 2019 @05:44PM (#20186901)
They really need to stop letting that guy anywhere near the whitehouse.
Re:The Truth About Tonkin (2008) by hurrdurr2 on Friday June 14, 2019 @05:46PM (#20186922)
That man is pure calculated evil. There is not a single US foreign adversary he would not like to blow up.
Re:The Truth About Tonkin (2008) by Gibbon1 on Friday June 14, 2019 @05:43PM (#20186891)
> Not sure if there are people right now who are hellbent to go to war Iran. I hope not.

I have bad news for you. The same people are pushing for war then are pushing for war now because that's how they make their living.

Re:The Truth About Tonkin (2008) by dsfyu404ed on Friday June 14, 2019 @06:11PM (#20187077)
>I have bad news for you. The same people are pushing for war then are pushing for war now because that's how they make their living.

Those same people spent the later part of the Obama years drooling over the idea that relations with Iran would thaw enough that they'd be able to make a killing selling to both sides of the Iran/Israel standoff.

Re:The Truth About Tonkin (2008) by scottlocklin on Friday June 14, 2019 @06:43PM (#20187279)
> . Not sure if there are people right now who are hellbent to go to war Iran.

Erm, yes, there are. Saudis, Israelis and the MEK are hell bent for us to go to war with Iran. They've also publically greased John "neocon mustache boy" Bolton, who will hopefully be looking for a job soon.

Re:The Truth About Tonkin (2008) by pjc50 on Friday June 14, 2019 @05:33PM (#20186840)
They're the same people as last time, more or less.
Re:The Truth About Tonkin (2008) by krapp on Friday June 14, 2019 @06:52PM (#20187322)
> Not sure if there are people right now who are hellbent to go to war Iran. I hope not.

Iraq, then Iran, then North Korea. That's been the plan ever since 9/11.

Re:The Truth About Tonkin (2008) by thephyber on Friday June 14, 2019 @07:01PM (#20187363)
IIRC, it was retired General Wesley Clark who stated[1] in an interview that someone he knew at the Pentagon told him about plans that had already been drawn up to attack 7 Middle Eastern countries:

> We're going to take out seven countries in five years.' And he named them, starting with Iraq and Syria and ending with Iran.

[1] https://www.salon.com/2007/10/12/wesley_clark/

Re:The Truth About Tonkin (2008) by acqq on Saturday June 15, 2019 @12:04AM (#20188339)
It's an apparent plan from 2001:

> And he named them, starting with Iraq and Syria and ending with Iran." While Clark doesn't name the other four countries, he has mentioned in televised interviews that the hit list included Lebanon, Libya, Somalia and Sudan

Iraq, 2003.

Libya happened in Obama time:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_military_intervention_in_...

Syrian war also started in 2011.

Re:The Truth About Tonkin (2008) by brians on Friday June 14, 2019 @05:28PM (#20186809)
The national security advisor and the Secretary of State.
Re:The Truth About Tonkin (2008) by maxxxxx on Friday June 14, 2019 @05:49PM (#20186940)
Pompeo seems pretty sane to me. Bolton is another question. very true.
Re:The Truth About Tonkin (2008) by aaronbrethorst on Friday June 14, 2019 @07:39PM (#20187548)
Pompeo believes in dispensational premillennialism. Which is to say that he thinks the world will end in literal Armageddon when the Antichrist comes to earth and the forces of Heaven and Hell do battle on the plains of Megiddo in Israel. Of course, Pompeo will have been swept up in the Rapture, so he'll be a-ok.

And yes, it sounds utterly insane to me too.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/03/26/americas-islamophobia-i...

For more background on dispensational premillennialism, check out https://crooked.com/podcast/karma-magnificent-btch-w-diana-b...

Re:The Truth About Tonkin (2008) by danharaj on Friday June 14, 2019 @05:54PM (#20186972)
> Pompeo seems pretty sane to me.

So did Colin Powell.

Re:The Truth About Tonkin (2008) by maxxxxx on Friday June 14, 2019 @06:11PM (#20187075)
My impression was that Powell let himself being bullied into it. Which is not good either.
Re:The Truth About Tonkin (2008) by DuskStar on Saturday June 15, 2019 @01:49AM (#20188566)
IIRC the Japanese tanker owner misidentified what side of the ship was damaged, so I wouldn't place too much weight on his words.