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Re:Shopify raises $7 Million Series A by steveklabnik on Friday December 17, 2010 @02:51PM (#2017465)
So much for "Bootstrapped, profitable, and proud," eh? http://37signals.com/svn/posts/2378-profitable-proud-shopify

That said, congrats to Shopify. You guys do great stuff, and your open source contributions are top-knotch!

Re:Shopify raises $7 Million Series A by xal on Friday December 17, 2010 @04:58PM (#2018007)
Well as you can see, the post was taken out of the Profitable & Proud series and was renamed to a QA right after posting.

I guess we are not technically bootstrapped by some incredibly demanding definition of the term.

To me all those things - Bootstrapping, Angel money, Grants, VCs, etc - are just tangential tools in a pretty large toolbox that we as entrepreneurs can draw upon. There is no secret bootstrap society that you get to join if you do that just like there is no secret hammer society that you get to join if you only use hammers for all your carpentry jobs.

In any case, use the right tool for the job. We started a risky business in a crowded space so we bootstrapped. We ran out of cash so we got Angel money. We became profitable so we increased our own spend. We got really good at this and wanted to accelerate so we take VC money to get to our goals faster. It's not rocket surgery.

Re:Shopify raises $7 Million Series A by steveklabnik on Friday December 17, 2010 @05:10PM (#2018058)
Quite true. I've mentioned some of those things below, and I absolutely don't mean to denigrate your success, you guys are great. It's just changed the way that I see how you see yourselves, though I guess I should have been thinking that way all along.

Keep up the awesome. :)

Re:Shopify raises $7 Million Series A by babeKnuth on Saturday December 18, 2010 @12:53AM (#2018998)
It's not brain science either. :)
Re:Shopify raises $7 Million Series A by cal5k on Friday December 17, 2010 @03:05PM (#2017541)
They've already proven their business model, have tons of customers, are making a profit, and have a plan for scaling their business. This is the perfect time to take investment - regardless of whether they were bootstrapped to this point.

I don't think anything in the so-called "lean startup" philosophy runs counter to the idea of taking Series A financing when appropriate. Hell, even 37Signals took money from Jeff Bezos...

Re:Shopify raises $7 Million Series A by steveklabnik on Friday December 17, 2010 @03:17PM (#2017596)
Oh totally. Just commenting on the change, that's all. I certainly don't think 'lean' means 'never take money,' but it also does demonstrate that Shopify is a 'startup' and not a 'lifestyle business.' Maybe they always were, and I just didn't notice.
Re:Shopify raises $7 Million Series A by faramarz on Friday December 17, 2010 @02:55PM (#2017484)
What I was thinking. I'm sure 37signal guys have something to say.

But you know what, I bet they got an amazing deal because of their leverage. how can you not take the money?

Re:Shopify raises $7 Million Series A by steveklabnik on Friday December 17, 2010 @02:56PM (#2017500)
Actually, re-reading my link, apparently they had angel money before, so they already weren't technically bootstrapped.
Re:Shopify raises $7 Million Series A by faramarz on Friday December 17, 2010 @03:34PM (#2017661)
I found an interesting bit of info by Tobias on Quora

  "...it took about 3 years to reach positive cashflow 
  and we financed this by not taking salaries as founders,
  angel investors and grants (canadian government) all 
  at once."
http://www.quora.com/How-long-does-it-take-for-a-web-startup...