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Re:Less Processed Meat, More Plant-Based Foods May Boost Lon... by ianai on Thursday June 13, 2019 @06:50AM (#20173485)
There’s really no amount of nice treatment that makes taking a calf away from its mother alright. I’m not aware of any ways to produce dairy without systematic animal abuse.
Re:Less Processed Meat, More Plant-Based Foods May Boost Lon... by kaybe on Thursday June 13, 2019 @07:43AM (#20173783)
I found a method that leaves them together for 3 months. That's an improvement at least.

(Of course that means that the calf will take most -but not all- of the milk during that time. But then it is stated that the cost for the vet goes down a lot in exchange.)

Another option I found is to give several calves to one cow for 6 months, which has advantages and disadvantages compared to the first way. (Longer time with milk and natural suckling behaviour but calves without their mother and the smaller ones might get less milk.)

edit: Here is a list with places in Germany that do that:

https://welttierschutz.org/hofliste-mit-mutter-oder-ammengeb...

I'm not sure how to translate the key words for english googling.

Re:Less Processed Meat, More Plant-Based Foods May Boost Lon... by ianai on Thursday June 13, 2019 @07:52AM (#20173838)
That’s still plenty abusive.
Re:Less Processed Meat, More Plant-Based Foods May Boost Lon... by kaybe on Friday June 14, 2019 @08:27AM (#20182382)
Thinking about it a while, I'd say let's not let the perfect stand in the way of the better.
Re:Less Processed Meat, More Plant-Based Foods May Boost Lon... by ShlomoS on Thursday June 13, 2019 @07:34AM (#20173737)
By not taking the calves away from their mothers? That's how we did it for centuries, we only started taking calves away from their mothers when artificial milk replacements made it more profitable to do so.