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Re:When Employees Use Software That IT Hasn’t Approved by lnanek2 on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @12:00PM (#20166026)
I've heard security management say it is their job to say no all day. They definitely don't care about preventing work getting done. They will only get fired if a data leak occurs, etc.. Preventing work won't even ding their promo outcomes.
Re:When Employees Use Software That IT Hasn’t Approved by analog31 on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @06:39PM (#20170076)
Whenever several people of a profession work together in one location, they tend to form a Guild. My dad couldn't plug something into an electrical outlet without having an electrician do it. This is human nature, and is as old as the hills.
Re:When Employees Use Software That IT Hasn’t Approved by Kalium on Thursday June 13, 2019 @12:30AM (#20171808)
The opposite scenario also happens. When security management's job is to never prevent work getting done, their inability to say no to even the most abusive practices can become an issue.

Cloning a production database full of private customer data for testing? Well, we can't interfere with a practice that gets features shipped and the team doesn't have space on their roadmap to build out synthetic data...

Re:When Employees Use Software That IT Hasn’t Approved by Endy on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @01:11PM (#20166894)
If work happens and somehow anything goes wrong, they get fired. Therefore it's a matter of self-preservation to get everything possible frozen.
Re:When Employees Use Software That IT Hasn’t Approved by jpindar on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @02:09PM (#20167546)
The most secure network is one that no one uses. Therefore the goal is to make the network as difficult to use as possible.
Re:When Employees Use Software That IT Hasn’t Approved by dreamcompiler on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @01:33PM (#20167165)
Incentive structures always tell the tale, and people have a nasty tendency to figure them out quickly, regardless of what their mission statement says on paper.
Re:When Employees Use Software That IT Hasn’t Approved by pmorici on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @05:14PM (#20169378)
That's the point of telling your manager and letting them deal with it. Ultimately the business needs to make money or show some result. If the company policies prevent that then their cost benefit needs to be evaluated and that is a manager's job. "No" is fine as long as a conscious decision is being made with the consequences in mind. That way your security person isn't saying no to Dropbox access they are saying "No" to the successful implementation of the CEO's #X priority for the quarter or "No" to 10% additional revenue for the company or whatever.