Chase did a bad thing, so we did a good thing

Re:Chase did a bad thing, so we did a good thing by neilv on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @11:47PM (#20161624)

I'd love to see HN or Reddit or someone work with the feds on how to investigate and prosecute astroturfing/sockpuppets/shilling, perhaps as unauthorized computer access and/or fraud.

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Re:Chase did a bad thing, so we did a good thing by Drdrdrq on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @12:17AM (#20161736)

Except it's not really unauthorized access if the owner of the account allows you to publish in his/her name, is it?

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Re:Chase did a bad thing, so we did a good thing by neilv on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @01:42AM (#20162055)

I suspect lawyers could figure out the ToS so that it is.

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Re:Chase did a bad thing, so we did a good thing by briandear on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @02:41AM (#20162297)

That wouldn’t be “criminal” — a TOS violation isn’t “prosecuted” as its civil. And, the aggrieved party would have to prove actual damages.

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Re:Chase did a bad thing, so we did a good thing by neilv on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @12:03PM (#20166074)

Unauthorized access in connection with fraud, for example. I'll let the lawyers figure it out, and I hope they do.

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Re:Chase did a bad thing, so we did a good thing by briandear on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @02:39AM (#20162290)

Astroturfing and shilling isn’t illegal. Unless an account was hacked, no crime has been committed. Even lying generally isn’t a crime. In terms of fraud, there has to be a determination of unlawful gain or to deprive a victim of a legal right. Astroturfing isn’t fraud, nor is shilling.

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Re:Chase did a bad thing, so we did a good thing by neilv on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @12:02PM (#20166049)

Which is why I said they'd have to work with the feds on how.

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