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Re:The technology industry is rife with bottlenecks by ben_w on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @01:04PM (#20157299)
> If that sounds difficult to believe consider that we have nukes in excess of 100 megatons

No we don’t. The biggest ever was Tsar Bomba, which was 50 Megatons with the option to make it 100. The aircraft that dropped it barely got out of the way in time, and it was only on a plane at all because it was too big and heavy for a missile.

Re:The technology industry is rife with bottlenecks by GauntletWizard on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @02:07PM (#20157930)
Your argument is what? The largest nuke ever tested was 50MT. It is entirely possible (abd probable) that development continued. Was there a physical limit about the tsar Bomba? I think the dial-a-yield testing at only half strength is a pretty solid indicator no.

Do you think they stopped because dropping the Tsar Bomba at full yield was a suicide mission? Yes, yes it is possible that it would have been. That would not have stopped development. Suicide missions happen. We have autonomous planes now.

There's only mild speculation in the >100MT number. They almost certainly exist, and your counterexample is right on the line.

Re:The technology industry is rife with bottlenecks by iguy on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @03:20PM (#20158637)
I think you have a point about nuclear bombs keeping the peace.

Exactly what one-offs the russians once made, I don't know how well this is known. But we have a pretty accurate picture of the stockpile of bombs existing now. And the the age of maximally-huge bombs was a long time ago, to compensate for terrible missile accuracy.

Re:The technology industry is rife with bottlenecks by rjf72 on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @01:34AM (#20162025)
I'm unsure of how accurate our classified knowledge is, but our publicly stated knowledge is not especially accurate. Many countries continue to openly develop nuclear weapons such as India and Pakistan. Other countries' ongoing development is an open-secret, such as Israel. And everything that we publicly know even about those developments tends to be based on a pretty wide range of estimates. This is further compounded since countries tend to stop testing once a certain level of competence is reached.

On top of this there is undoubtedly genuinely secretive developments. I think it's improbable that all nations who signed the nonproliferation treaty have not chosen to develop nukes. This comes in two forms. The first is larger nuclear powers such as USA/Russia/China not expanding or modernizing their arsenals. The second comes in smaller nations not creating their own. For instance South Africa, during its apartheid years, managed to secretly develop nuclear weapons which it subsequently dismantled before handing power over to the new non-apartheid government. Another possible, if not likely scenario, is entrenched nuclear powers aiding in the development of nuclear capability of smaller allied nations as a means of ensuring those nations sovereignty and as a solidification of their relationships. As an example of this, the US has for decades been alleging that China has been helping to enhance and expand Pakistan's nuclear program. In times past it was alleged that Israel had played a role in the development of South Africa's nuclear program.

Tsunami weapons are also a game changer. They don't suffer from the same issues of delivery that land/air based weapons do and may be more able to effectively sidestep missile defense systems, and of course also dependent on absolutely enormous payloads.

Re:The technology industry is rife with bottlenecks by iguy on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @04:04AM (#20162643)
We have a decent idea what small players like Pakistan/NK have got, I think, in terms of number & sophistication.

While I'm very doubtful that the US or Russian stockpile contains a > 100MT warhead, I agree that if there was any serious reason to produce one, this need not take very long, nor attract much attention.

Large bombs are in the ballpark of earthquakes, for energy released. But how much of this would be contained in the water, not just blown into space, or something? Presumably someone has done the calculations...

Re:The technology industry is rife with bottlenecks by dragonwriter on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @01:56AM (#20162102)
> For instance South Africa, during its apartheid years, managed to secretly develop nuclear weapons

As I understand, “develop” is a bit generous; it was largely direct transfer from Israel.

> Another possible, if not likely scenario, is entrenched nuclear powers aiding in the development of nuclear capability of smaller allied nations

How is that not likely? Most current (and the few past) nuclear powers that aren't the US, Russia, or perhaps Israel benefited from this at some point in their programs, covertly or overtly.

Re:The technology industry is rife with bottlenecks by rjf72 on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @12:54AM (#20161873)
The Tsar Bomba is the most powerful weapon ever detonated, and that was in 1961. Interestingly even that weapon back then had a 100 megaton design. They decided to scale back the tested payload for a variety of reasons including enormous fallout and that testing such a massive weapon would be a suicide mission for the pilots dropping it.
Re:The technology industry is rife with bottlenecks by tomatotomato37 on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @03:36PM (#20158794)
Should also probably add that it was so physically massive the bomber's interior and Bombbay doors had to be stripped, it required a parachute that itself weighed around a ton, and yet proved to be tactically underwhelming for its cost because the fireball ended up blasting itself into the upper atmosphere before it had time to fully expand