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Re:Ask HN: Should CS university grads be unemployable due t... by Locke1689 on Thursday December 16, 2010 @07:12PM (#2014500)
What a dumb question -- what makes the two mutually exclusive? I've been programming since I was 9. Here's the paper from the research I worked on my freshman year, which wouldn't have been possible if I hadn't gone to college.

http://v3vee.org/papers/ipdps10.pdf

Re:Ask HN: Should CS university grads be unemployable due t... by bendmorris on Thursday December 16, 2010 @07:37PM (#2014568)
While I agree with you, "what a dumb question" doesn't really contribute to the discussion.

In my opinion, getting your degree and teaching yourself or launching a product show two different types of initiative. If you've done both, you should get double points.

Re:Ask HN: Should CS university grads be unemployable due t... by Locke1689 on Thursday December 16, 2010 @08:22PM (#2014673)
My comment about it being a dumb question certainly contributes to the discussion: it says that I think the question is intellectually bankrupt prima facie and that I don't think questions like it should be submitted in the future. I have a standard for intellectual discussion on Hacker News and this question doesn't meet it.

There may be a legitimate question hidden behind the non sequitur but if so one should ask that question, not require people to do some linguistic gymnastics to find the real question.

Re:Ask HN: Should CS university grads be unemployable due t... by ia on Friday December 17, 2010 @09:37AM (#2016286)
I agree with you, but the pretentious tone of your comment distracts from your point.
Re:Ask HN: Should CS university grads be unemployable due t... by Locke1689 on Friday December 17, 2010 @01:00PM (#2017022)
Sorry, I'm just attempting to beat Reddit away from HN with as big a stick as possible.
Re:Ask HN: Should CS university grads be unemployable due t... by amichail on Thursday December 16, 2010 @07:30PM (#2014553)
They are not mutually exclusive, but it's a matter of degree. Someone who is exclusively self-taught has the potential to demonstrate more initiative.
Re:Ask HN: Should CS university grads be unemployable due t... by weaksauce on Thursday December 16, 2010 @07:55PM (#2014612)
It only shows that the person is good at doing things that they find interesting. I am a largely self taught man but I have learned a lot of things in school that I am grateful for learning but probably wouldn't have spent a lot of time learning on my own. Probability & Statistics and DSP are two that come to mind off the top of my head. I probably would have done them to a cursory understanding and not spent the countless hours in class and studying that it takes to get a deeper level of knowledge. That is not to say that I wouldn't have been learning though; it just would have been in a different area.

Learning subjects and doing well in school shows a potential employer that you are indeed capable succeeding in doing things that do not interest you. This is a skill that is important to employers.