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Re:Boeing Knew the AOA Disagree Alert on the 737 Max Didn’t ... by CamperBob2 on Monday June 10, 2019 @02:27AM (#20144350)
This is an interesting point. Some will argue that the AOA disagree indicator wouldn't have made any difference in either crash. But it seems like it would have caused Lion Air to take their aircraft out of service and fix the problem after it occurred on the penultimate flight.

Of course, the fact that they kept the aircraft in service without bothering to diagnose the issue that almost got everyone killed on the previous flight is a counterargument in itself. There's more than enough gross negligence to go around in this case, unfortunately.

Edit: actually, it appears that Lion didn't spring for the "optional" warning indicator feature in the first place.

Re:Boeing Knew the AOA Disagree Alert on the 737 Max Didn’t ... by mormegil on Monday June 10, 2019 @03:07AM (#20144503)
> actually, it appears that Lion didn't spring for the "optional" warning indicator feature in the first place.

AIUI, there was no "optional warning indicator feature" at all. The AOA disagree warning should have been a standard feature. Only the indicator of the current AOA was the optional feature.

Re:Boeing Knew the AOA Disagree Alert on the 737 Max Didn’t ... by pergadad on Monday June 10, 2019 @03:28AM (#20144582)
Optional indicator that was previously - and should have been - standard issue. With the MAX being sold with the explicit promise that there is little/no additional pilot training need.

Clear negligence on both sides, with Boeing being responsible at much grander scale.