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Re:Apple Is Listening by Barrin92 on Sunday June 09, 2019 @11:47PM (#20143774)
I don't think the OP was saying that he doesn't deserve his money, but it really is absolutely absurd. Apple is an international company, worth a trillion dollars selling millions of devices.

I work in the UK. I make about 80k a year pre-taxes. That's an average, if not relatively high salary for a developer. "Regular old enterprise developers" don't make 5000 bucks in two weeks, at least not in 99% of the developed world, not to speak of the rest.

And it's true that technology in 1992 was very expensive, but technology is actually supposed to get cheaper, that's the entire point, you get more for less. If you pay more for the same, that's anti-technology

Re:Apple Is Listening by ubercow13 on Monday June 10, 2019 @03:17AM (#20144539)
Seems more like double the average
Re:Apple Is Listening by nixgeek on Monday June 10, 2019 @12:26AM (#20143919)
$5k in two weeks is $130k a year, you make ~$104k a year with some currency conversion. They’re not incredibly far apart.
Re:Apple Is Listening by root_axis on Monday June 10, 2019 @01:53AM (#20144215)
In a world where you pay no taxes sure, in the real world it's closer to $160k a year and almost certainly more for someone living in Europe. Even if your math was correct, 30k a year at that income level is massive, that's an extra $1000 per pay period, definitely a brow-raising sum the first time you see that boost.
Re:Apple Is Listening by scarface74 on Monday June 10, 2019 @12:08PM (#20148034)
I mentioned how many hours a low paid 1099 contractor in Atlanta would have to work to pay for this. If I were a 1099 contractor, this would be a business expense - therefore pretax.
Re:Apple Is Listening by scarface74 on Monday June 10, 2019 @12:02AM (#20143828)
But if my parents - a teacher and a factory worker could afford it in 1992, are you really saying that a developer couldn’t?

I live in Atlanta - almost as far from the west coast of the US that you can get and salaries are much lower than the west coast. They pay developers with 3-5 years of experience $65/hour on a 1099 (Corp to Corp) basis. Since this would be a tax deductible company expense, that would be less than two weeks working.

Re:Apple Is Listening by Barrin92 on Monday June 10, 2019 @12:12AM (#20143864)
I mean I could technically afford it in the sense that I have enough money in the bank, but it's simply not justifiable. In 1992 hardware was expensive but the competition was fairly limited and Apple, even as recently as say 6-7 years ago with the iphone and macbook pro produced products were the premium was actually worth it.

But now? I can buy a 1.5k desktop machine, throw linux and windows on it and I am a perfectly happy camper (and very happer developer). I can buy a 400$ phone and I hardly notice any difference in quality. I don't see, in the context of alternatives, why apple is seemingly raising prices at will and that makes me feel duped, regardless of what I earn.

Re:Apple Is Listening by scarface74 on Monday June 10, 2019 @12:17AM (#20143875)
And if all you need is the power of a $1500 PC, you aren’t the target market for the Mac Pro. Apple has plenty other Macs that would meet your needs.

If you can’t “justify” the need for a Mac Pro - (and neither can I) you aren’t the target market.