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Re:Apple Is Listening by marricks on Sunday June 09, 2019 @10:39PM (#20143456)
It doesn’t get me HN points to say, but I’m a developer who loves my MBP.
Re:Apple Is Listening by kjhughes on Sunday June 09, 2019 @10:42PM (#20143477)
I love my late 2013 MacBook Pro too, but I've been longing to replace it for years now, only to be disappointed time and again with each new MBP release. I'm still waiting and wishing for a model worth buying.
Re:Apple Is Listening by kylehotchkiss on Monday June 10, 2019 @02:24AM (#20144337)
Me too. I have a 2017 13in and a 2018 15in. My wife has a 2018 13in as well. We’ve had some minor issues that AppleCare resolved but other than that I love how crazy fast the SSD are and how cool and quiet they generally will run.
Re:Apple Is Listening by stephenr on Sunday June 09, 2019 @10:46PM (#20143494)
I’m pretty happy with mine too, but mine isn’t used daily, just when the Mini has an issue or I go out of the (home) office and need to work.
Re:Apple Is Listening by fastball on Sunday June 09, 2019 @10:53PM (#20143523)
You love it more than the 2015 MBP?
Re:Apple Is Listening by OBLIQUE_PILLAR on Sunday June 09, 2019 @10:43PM (#20143479)
are you a fan of the butterfly keyboard ?
Re:Apple Is Listening by Phlarp on Sunday June 09, 2019 @11:47PM (#20143772)
I have a 2017 15" and my girlfriend has a 2016 13", we both do technical work with these machines as our primary work devices.

Neither of us have any issues with the keyboard other than the clearly above average failure rates and the hassle of getting it repaired. My 15" has not exhibited any issues at all, the slightly older 13" has started to develop some stickiness with the arrow keys.

Obviously there are issues with this keyboard and I eagerly await a redesign on it (as well as haptic feedback on the touchbar and making the touchbar option across all models).

On the whole I'm quite happy with the extended warranty as it essentially amounts to free AppleCare+, and given their insistence on making the overall device unserviceable it also amounts to a deductible free midlife battery replacement.

It's an elegant solution to the whole fiasco in my mind-- the cost of servicing all these keyboards has to be painful beyond normal for them given that ridiculous design, magnified further by the fact that end users should have no problems encouraging the keyboard to fail if/when they want a scratch free case or 0 cycle battery. To say nothing of how it undermines the value of AppleCare as a service, both because you can get nearly the same thing for free, and the existence of the keyboard program is straining their staff resources on repairs, which are otherwise almost exclusively devoted to AppleCare customers.

Re:Apple Is Listening by simongr3dal on Sunday June 09, 2019 @11:09PM (#20143609)
I’ve had the 2011 model 15” MBP and currently own a 2016 model 13” MBP and I love the butterfly keyboard.

It is soul crushingly inconvenient and annoying when the keyboard breaks and you have to have it replaced.

I’ve had mine replaced twice so far both times under warranty. Because Apple provides the extended 4-year warranty for free on the keyboard it is no longer a financial risk to own the computer, only an inconvenience if it breaks again.

On the plus-side, because the whole computer is glued together I got a fresh new battery installed every time they replaced the keyboard.

Re:Apple Is Listening by dwaite on Monday June 10, 2019 @12:48AM (#20143982)
They have improved the repairability of the keyboard itself over time, and have recently started doing in-house repairs/replacements of the keyboards at Apple Stores to cut down wait times.
Re:Apple Is Listening by eatfish on Monday June 10, 2019 @12:00AM (#20143825)
Not the OP and I wouldn't say I'm a fan but I've made some peace with it by putting a membrane cover over the top and so far: (a) not one dust related casualty in the past 18 months and (b) it subdues the clackety-clack of the keys into something that's actually quite pleasant.

However, the touchbar...still a pointless gimick.

Re:Apple Is Listening by empath75 on Monday June 10, 2019 @07:17AM (#20145581)
Amusingly, I spilt a coke in mine a few months ago and other than 1 or 2 keys sticking every once in a while, it’s still working fine.