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Re:People who document violent extremism are being shut down... by raxxorrax on Friday June 07, 2019 @07:35AM (#20123476)
The allegedly worst site of actual national socialists had some badly drawn anime comics with very questionable messages and a minuscule user base. They were at the lowest bottom of the barrel for years. Then censorship ambitions flared up and look where we are now...

Not that rational arguments seem to work in this discussion...

Re:People who document violent extremism are being shut down... by eesmith on Friday June 07, 2019 @09:15AM (#20124165)
"Nazis" in these sorts of discussions is broadly meant to include 'actual national socialists', neo-nazis, white nationalists and white supremacists, and their sympathizers, stooges, and fellow travelers. This makes it a form of metonymy.

Since the broader term includes more materials than "badly drawn anime comics", it appears you do not understand what most people usually mean by "Nazis". (To confirm my suspicion, I see at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19729764 that you used the phrase "national socialists knew very well", suggesting that you consider it as a term for people in the past, and not those in the present. How then did any of them have web sites, and were interested in anime?)

By the way, many people who, seemingly hyper-pedantically narrow the use of "Nazi" for "actual national socialists" or (seen elsewhere) "members of the National Socialist German Workers' Party" are often deliberately derailing the topic. My advice is to not follow practices which might mistakenly get you labeled as a Nazi sympathizer.

In any case, the HN guideline is to assume the "strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize". "Actual national socialists" is a much weaker and not really justifiable interpretation.

Re:People who document violent extremism are being shut down... by raxxorrax on Friday June 07, 2019 @09:49AM (#20124427)
I think it wasn't made clear that I was referring to the daily stormer in the example I have given, I was reluctant to give out a name. It is very true that there are at least some differences between "classical" national socialists and neo-nazis.

I just wanted to point out that I actually visited the site once and it was ridiculous from top to bottom without any significant amount of users (per page rank). They were spectacularly banned which just seems to be like upgrading the position of North Korea. Something you might want to avoid. I believe it is worth thinking about it.

> My advice is to not follow practices which might mistakenly get you labeled as a Nazi sympathizer.

Me being a bit non-conformist from time to time is actually pretty useful against ideologies like nazism. Guilt by association is a different story however. But you are correct, let us be more self critical about that.

Re:People who document violent extremism are being shut down... by eesmith on Friday June 07, 2019 @02:22PM (#20127301)
As I understand it - which isn't saying much - 4chan's /pol/ is a more frequented link for the ilk we refer to, and with much better design skills than what you described.
Re:People who document violent extremism are being shut down... by 0815test on Friday June 07, 2019 @09:24AM (#20124216)
Well, if we're going to do that, I think this extended "Nazi" label should also include militant Islamic anti-Semitism, as from ISIL, Hezballah, Hamas and the like. Since there is a fairly clear line of descent from the early-20th-c. anti-Semitism that Hitler drew onto, to present-day Islamic fundamentalism and extremism.
Re:People who document violent extremism are being shut down... by thrower123 on Friday June 07, 2019 @09:30AM (#20124258)
Well, the godfather of the PLO, Amin al-Huesseini, hobnobbed with Hitler and Himmler, and tried to raise an Arab legion for the SS, before returning to fan the flames against a peaceful partition in 1947, so the link isn't all that hard to trace.
Re:People who document violent extremism are being shut down... by eesmith on Friday June 07, 2019 @02:40PM (#20127460)
The main thread I pointed to was one of white nationalism and related areas of white supremacy and white separatism.

While that certainly includes antisemitism, most of the people in the organizations you describe do not consider themselves white, nor, I suspect, are they doing so because of a believe in some variant of Aryan racial superiority.

That makes them "not Nazis".

Similarly, those killed in the Holocaust included Slavs, Jehovah's Witnesses, Roma, and homosexuals. Though these were considered racially inferior, deviant, or enemy nationals, while the Jews were falsely maligned as a 'counter-race', deserving of far worse treatment.

That does not make all anti-LGBT people Nazis by extension.

Just like it does not make all anti-Semites Nazis.