Launch HN: Termius (YC W19) – SSH client that works on desktop and mobile

Re:Launch HN: Termius (YC W19) – SSH client that works on de... by sebular on Thursday June 06, 2019 @05:21PM (#20119354)

I've used Termius on my iPhone a few times when I needed to complete a small task and couldn't be at a computer. For that use case, it's been fantastic!

However, Termius on the desktop (Windows, in this case) falls short of the usability threshold for me because of slow performance, especially at high resolutions. When scrolling a large number of characters across the screen, performance is significantly worse than using Linux terminals like gnome-terminal or Terminal.app on macOS.

Every few months I end up installing the latest version of Termius to see if the performance issues have been fixed, but they have not. Instead, I'm using an installation of mate-terminal on Ubuntu for WSL combined with the X410 server. It's much more clunky to set up and use, but performance is great.

I expect that with the introduction of Windows Terminal, Termius will lose ground if it doesn't improve.

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Re:Launch HN: Termius (YC W19) – SSH client that works on de... by rkudiyarov on Thursday June 06, 2019 @05:25PM (#20119383)

I completely agree that the desktop app performance must be better. We have been gradually migrating from Angular to React under the hood, so having both frameworks slowed down the app. We are going to be done with migration soon, and we are testing WebGL rendering to speed it up even more.

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Re:Launch HN: Termius (YC W19) – SSH client that works on de... by Scarbutt on Thursday June 06, 2019 @05:28PM (#20119422)

Maybe an agent that just syncs would be a better option (for desktop), so users can keep using their preferred terminal.

Interesting that it is a YC startup.

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Re:Launch HN: Termius (YC W19) – SSH client that works on de... by rkudiyarov on Thursday June 06, 2019 @05:39PM (#20119518)

You can use Termius CLI that syncs the data to your machine and enable working with it in the terminal https://docs.termius.com/termius-cli/termius-cli

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Re:Launch HN: Termius (YC W19) – SSH client that works on de... by jamesponddotco on Thursday June 06, 2019 @10:38PM (#20121192)

Hm, seems like it stores SSH key passwords in plain text?

https://github.com/Crystalnix/termius-cli/issues/132

Any comment on that?

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Re:Launch HN: Termius (YC W19) – SSH client that works on de... by rkudiyarov on Friday June 07, 2019 @01:16AM (#20121840)

Yes, that is user's home directory, e.g., SSH keys in ~/.ssh are also plain text.

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Re:Launch HN: Termius (YC W19) – SSH client that works on de... by jamesponddotco on Friday June 07, 2019 @01:21AM (#20121860)

Not their passwords, tho. I am not trying to be difficult here, just trying to understand the reasoning behind leaving the passwords stored in plain text.

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Re:Launch HN: Termius (YC W19) – SSH client that works on de... by rkudiyarov on Friday June 07, 2019 @02:14AM (#20122060)

We found no way to store password somehow else as Keychains are platform specific, but we plan to add Keychain support in the future.

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Re:Launch HN: Termius (YC W19) – SSH client that works on de... by Terretta on Friday June 07, 2019 @06:50AM (#20123285)

If you used ‘platform specific’ built-in secrets sync you’d be done... but then how would you justify charging for the built in sync? So I see your conundrum.

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Re:Launch HN: Termius (YC W19) – SSH client that works on de... by __david__ on Friday June 07, 2019 @06:27AM (#20123180)

> …SSH keys in ~/.ssh are also plain text.

What? Mine aren't, nor have they ever been…

If you are storing ssh private keys on disk without a password you are doing something wrong.

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Re:Launch HN: Termius (YC W19) – SSH client that works on de... by icebraining on Friday June 07, 2019 @06:45AM (#20123260)

If someone can read the files in .ssh, chances are they can also add an alias to the ssh command that steals your passphrase. As for the "stolen laptop" scenario, whole disk encryption is preferable.

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Re:Launch HN: Termius (YC W19) – SSH client that works on de... by SanchoPanda on Thursday June 06, 2019 @06:03PM (#20119684)

I didn't know this existed, thanks,

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Re:Launch HN: Termius (YC W19) – SSH client that works on de... by SanchoPanda on Thursday June 06, 2019 @05:52PM (#20119604)

My dot files are valuable to me, and I have struggled with a number of different systems for managing them across devices. I feel less attached to the terminal emulator itself, and switch peridocially as different programs interact weirdly with different terminals. Especially on WSL.

Secure effective syncing would give me the valuable thing, while still having the freedom to bounce around terminals.

For context, I currently use termius on ipad, but use termux on android and flavor of the week on desktop, currently WSLtty. I have used the pro version of termius in the past, but do not currently.

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