Re:Australia May Be the World’s Most Secretive Democracy
by pjc50 on Thursday June 06, 2019 @10:43AM
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> WWII did take a few rather large European empires with disenfranchised colonies, and turn their member states into independent, (at least temporarily) functional democratic nations.
Outside of the Axis powers .. did it? How? Which countries? The more I try to think of a list the more I come up with examples that were due primarily to local action (e.g. India), their own wars (Kenya, Algeria), or happened a lot later than 1945.
Re:Australia May Be the World’s Most Secretive Democracy
by natechols on Thursday June 06, 2019 @01:32PM
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True, but WWII was the precipitating event nonetheless, partly because nations like the UK could barely afford to hang onto their empires, and were increasingly dependent on the US which was generally anti-colonialist (if inconsistently so).
But WWII did take a few rather large European empires with disenfranchised colonies, and turn their member states into independent, (at least temporarily) functional democratic nations. It also produced semi-global representative-democratic “treaty organizations” in the form of NATO and the UN, which, again, were at least temporarily functional and taken seriously and used to enact changes by the will of their members.
(Really, though, the member nations of NATO/the UN just all had a good temporary working relationship due to being either on the same side of the war, or being made powerless by the means of their defeat, so these bodies were just a formal representation of the way their leaders were already talking to one-another at the time. As soon as everyone in these nations got newer leaders, these bodies stopped “working”—because it was never the bodies themselves that functioned in the first place.)