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Re:Use zsh as the default shell on your Mac by rusk on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @07:44AM (#20094009)
In my experience Mac OS still has the edge in terms of stability. But certainly the gap is closing.
Re:Use zsh as the default shell on your Mac by barrkel on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @08:23AM (#20094263)
The only crashes I've had from NT kernel over the past 15 years or so are from graphics card drivers and bad RAM.

Linux is a lot less stable, as a laptop OS, than Windows or OSX. Suspend and resume in presence and absence of multiple monitors is like rolling dice; locks up about 15% of the time.

Re:Use zsh as the default shell on your Mac by wazoox on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @09:54AM (#20095010)
Not my experience. I used mostly Linux for 15 years, and I had zero problems with laptops, external screens and suspend in the past 8 years. I have a Linux laptop that's used for demo hooked up to a TV, settings are changed from dual screen to mirroring all the time, then it goes to sleep, is woken up with the TV off, etc, zero trouble, it hadn't rebooted in 2 months.

And Windows still requires random reboots for updates, of course usually at the worst possible time (fortunately I only use windows in VMs for testing). God how I hate Windows, it's unbearable really, after 5 minutes at the third nagging stupid popup (update Java! update Acrobat! update antivirus! don't turn off the computer, installing update 2 on 10532!) I want to throw the thing out of the window :)

Re:Use zsh as the default shell on your Mac by barrkel on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @01:57PM (#20097546)
I've been using Linux since 1996; not wet behind the ears. Graphics drivers are substantially worse on Linux than Windows, and even on Windows they're still the main source of problems.

A mix of dock and undock with multiple monitors is dodgy; like rolling a die. Plugging in the display port cable after a resume from a prior docked suspend, for a presentation, is flipping a coin.

Re:Use zsh as the default shell on your Mac by rusk on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @03:16PM (#20098255)
A lot of what you say describes a fairly common experience with Windows too. Perhaps not with a Thinkpad maybe but I’ve failed to revive a sleeping windows machine on a few occasions, and switching between output sources can be unpredictable too. Mac is the only platform which consistenly succeeds at these kinds of things because of the vertically integrates hardware. Its the drivers as you say ... I don’t think the actual o/s has much say in it beyond the drivers that are supported.
Re:Use zsh as the default shell on your Mac by paulcarroty on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @09:55AM (#20095016)
> Linux is a lot less stable, as a laptop OS, than Windows or OSX.

Can't remember any major problems with Linux on laptops for latest 5 years. All works like charm.

If you use a cheap/noname/non-popular hardware - it happens, yes, but in Windows world too.

Re:Use zsh as the default shell on your Mac by barrkel on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @01:52PM (#20097482)
Lenovo Thinkpad.

It's the multi-monitor / dock interaction. It's just not solid.

Re:Use zsh as the default shell on your Mac by eropple on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @09:49PM (#20100856)
Which dock do you have?

I've had issues with USB-C docks. I've had zero issues over four different Thinkpads (FC28 and FC29) with the Lenovo Thunderbolt dock.

Re:Use zsh as the default shell on your Mac by rusk on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @08:31AM (#20094310)
Lucky you! I do a reboot on my Windows 10 machine every night. I also suffered from intermittent complete and total lockups due to a bug in what I traced to spotify. Similar thing happened with MacOS and safari recently enough too so I stopped using Safari for a while ...
Re:Use zsh as the default shell on your Mac by AtlasLion on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @09:26AM (#20094756)
using a Lenovo P50 with windows 10 for 2 years now, I only reboot it maybe once a month, for the rest, I close the lid, it goes to sleep, next day in the office, I open the lid and continue where I stopped. so far I have had zero issues with it.
Re:Use zsh as the default shell on your Mac by rusk on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @09:49AM (#20094963)
That's how I use my mac. Sad to say I've never had that experience with Windows but then again, I've never had a Lenovo ...
Re:Use zsh as the default shell on your Mac by monocasa on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @10:45AM (#20095505)
What kind of machine do you have?
Re:Use zsh as the default shell on your Mac by rusk on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @10:48AM (#20095534)
Why do you ask?
Re:Use zsh as the default shell on your Mac by monocasa on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @03:37PM (#20098472)
To take your anecdote in context.
Re:Use zsh as the default shell on your Mac by rusk on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @03:52PM (#20098600)
You think I’m making it up or something?