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Re:New Mac Pro by eropple on Monday June 03, 2019 @05:25PM (#20088973)
I'm not mad that it's 10GBASE-T, but I'd personally rather 10G over SFP+. The sorts of shops that can afford these probably already have some pretty burly networking infrastructure, and 10GBASE-T is both expensive and (IME) less reliable.

The encoding/decoding capacity of Ethernet-over-twisted-pair seems to be reaching a point of sharply diminishing returns and the hardware for 10GBASE-T is really expensive for what's been, in my experience, a less reliable experience than SFP+. I'd rather tell somebody who needs 10GBASE-T to use an RJ-45 adapter than to have to go grab yet another Mellanox card to stick in a computer this expensive.

Re:New Mac Pro by cm2187 on Monday June 03, 2019 @05:44PM (#20089187)
But isn't SFP+ not compatible with 1G (i.e. can only be used with a 10G network equipment)? If you are selling a machine that people will plug into either a 1gbe or 10gbe network, you'd rather have some interface that can downgrade.
Re:New Mac Pro by buildbot on Monday June 03, 2019 @08:04PM (#20090382)
You can use SFP in an SFP+ socket, but not the other way around. The downgrade to 1GB would work fine. Since this is still a desk focused machine vs. datacenter, I'd expect most offices to be wired to cat6 ethernet which can do 10GB if needed vs. SFP+ cables or SFP+ to Fiber.
Re:New Mac Pro by eropple on Monday June 03, 2019 @08:10PM (#20090427)
That, and I'd still expect an RJ-45 port somewhere.
Re:New Mac Pro by Hikikomori on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @02:53AM (#20092538)
Not always true, it needs explicit support for SFP as it's not backwards compatible.
Re:New Mac Pro by Unklejoe on Monday June 03, 2019 @09:13PM (#20090799)
You can find SFP+ modules that support both 10G and 1G.
Re:New Mac Pro by Nexxxeh on Monday June 03, 2019 @05:46PM (#20089211)
>but I'd personally rather 10G over SFP+.

Is that the wrong way around? I'm struggling to parse otherwise.

Re:New Mac Pro by santadakota on Monday June 03, 2019 @07:18PM (#20089989)
Another way to say 10G via an SFP+ transceiver, as opposed to 10G via twisted pair.

1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_form-factor_pluggable_tr...

2) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_over_twisted_pair

Re:New Mac Pro by yjftsjthsd-h on Monday June 03, 2019 @07:33PM (#20090140)
Read as s/over/on/