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Re:Ask HN: Is it possible to move to another country when ov... by cletus on Monday June 03, 2019 @11:10AM (#20083936)
So there are a lot of factors that go into this. First, let's consider earning potential:

- What is your earning potential in the US?

- What is your earning potential in [other country]?

- How many years on your current immigration status can you remain in the US?

Context: I'm Australian. I now live and work in the US because the earning potential for a software engineer here is 5x what it is in Australia. As long as you're spending less than you earn you can pack many years of saving into the US in a short period of time so it's worth considering a longer stay even if it is still temporary.

Citizenship:

- What is your current country or countries of citizenship?

- Is your plan to become a citizen of [other country]?

- Do you want to retain your existing citizenship(s)?

- What is your time frame for wanting to gain citizenship?

Some examples:

- You can get Irish citizenship in 4-5 years (IIRC) and can retain your existing citizenship

- Austrian, German and Dutch citizenship (again, IIRC) require you to renounce your existing citizenship to become a citizenship (there are exceptions).

- If your goal is to get EU citizenship because that comes with a lot of benefits like being able to live and work in 27 (or 26 after Brexit) countries.

These are the options I would consider and the reasons why:

1. Ireland. EU citizenship in a relatively short period of time. English-speaking, developed economy and employment opportunities. Also, the country is relatively welcoming to immigration.

2. Canada. This can effectively prolong your stay in the US forever. After gaining Canadian citizenship you can essentially work forever in the US on TN visas.

3. Australia. Relatively easy to get immigration status as a software engineer with a college degree who speaks, reads and writes English (there's a point system). I believe the time frames are relatively short and this too will open up the ability to work in the US via the E3 visa.

There are other factors that come into play too like family situations, long term plans, where you plan to retire, etc.

Re:Ask HN: Is it possible to move to another country when ov... by joelbluminator on Monday June 03, 2019 @11:17AM (#20084032)
P.S I would add the U.K to the list, especially London. Might feel a bit less "claustrophobic" than Ireland.
Re:Ask HN: Is it possible to move to another country when ov... by cletus on Monday June 03, 2019 @12:27PM (#20085000)
I deliberately left off the UK for several reasons:

1. In the last decade, the politics have definitely shifted to being more anti-immigration than they used to be. For example, it takes at least 6 years to qualify for UK citizenship. This is 5 years to qualify to ILR (Indefinite Leave to Remain) and a year of ILR to qualify for citizenship. This used to be 4 years to get ILR (prior to ~2006?).

2. Adding of extra requirements like Living in the UK test and a nebulous "good character" test.

3. Uncertainty over Brexit. It's far from clear what UK citizenship will get you post-Brexit, if Brexit even happens. Given the rise of the Brexit party and the Tories tearing themselves apart with May resigning and a hard Brexiteer like Boris Johnson likely to be the next PM, a hard Brexit has become much more likely. This may also negatively impact the UK economy.

Re:Ask HN: Is it possible to move to another country when ov... by joelbluminator on Monday June 03, 2019 @11:14AM (#20083994)
That's interesting, is it really so easy for a Canadian programmer to get a job in the U.S on a TN visa? Would imagine uncle Trump would put a stop to that by now :)
Re:Ask HN: Is it possible to move to another country when ov... by jameshush on Monday June 03, 2019 @11:18AM (#20084051)
Canadian living in LA now, it’s very easy as long as you have the right degree. I got in originally working for a pre series A startup as employee #11. Luckily Uncle Trump has to move at the speed of government so he can’t just end NAFTA on a Friday afternoon :)
Re:Ask HN: Is it possible to move to another country when ov... by tchadwick on Monday June 03, 2019 @11:28AM (#20084191)
But he sure did try. I was also a Canadian living LA, but am back in Canada now. Definitely miss it.