Google Cloud Is Down

Re:Google Cloud Is Down by nullwasamistake on Sunday June 02, 2019 @09:32PM (#20079732)

You have to be kidding me. 14 9's is already microseconds a year. Surely below anybody's error bar for whether a service is down or not.

16 9's and aws should easily last as long as the great pyramids without a second worth of outage.

What a joke

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Re:Google Cloud Is Down by agwa on Sunday June 02, 2019 @10:00PM (#20079849)

The 16 9's are for durability, not availability. AWS is not saying S3 will never go down; they're saying it will rarely lose your data.

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Re:Google Cloud Is Down by nullwasamistake on Sunday June 02, 2019 @10:36PM (#20079970)

This number is still total bullshit. They could lose a few kb and be above that for centuries

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Re:Google Cloud Is Down by deanCommie on Sunday June 02, 2019 @11:54PM (#20080295)

It's not about losing a few kb here and there.

It's about losing entire data centers to massive natural disasters once in a century.

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Re:Google Cloud Is Down by jefftk on Sunday June 02, 2019 @10:59PM (#20080066)

None of the big cloud providers have unrecoverably lost hosted data yet, despite sorting vast volumes, so this doesn't seem BS to me.

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Re:Google Cloud Is Down by mentat on Sunday June 02, 2019 @11:43PM (#20080262)

AWS lost data in Australia a few years ago due to a power outage I believe.

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Re:Google Cloud Is Down by anbop on Monday June 03, 2019 @03:11AM (#20081060)

on EBS, not on S3. EBS has much lower durability guarantees

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Re:Google Cloud Is Down by nullwasamistake on Sunday June 02, 2019 @11:49PM (#20080280)

Not losing any data yet doesn't give justification for such absurd numbers

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Re:Google Cloud Is Down by joshuamorton on Monday June 03, 2019 @04:28AM (#20081367)

Those numbers probably aren't as absurd as you think. 16 9s is, I think 10 bytes lost per exabyte-year of data storage.

There's perhaps the additional asterisk of "and we haven't suffered a catastrophic event that entirely puts us out of business". (Which is maybe only terrorist attacks). Because then you're talking about losing data only when cosmic-ray bitflips happen simultaneously in data centers on different continents, which I'd expect doesn't happen too often.

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Re:Google Cloud Is Down by joshuamorton on Sunday June 02, 2019 @09:58PM (#20079837)

This is for data loss. 11 9s is like 1 byte lost per terabyte-year or something, which isn't an unreasonable number.

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Re:Google Cloud Is Down by StreamBright on Monday June 03, 2019 @03:18AM (#20081085)

This is why I linked the SLA page which you obviously have not read. There are different numbers for durability and availability.

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