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Re:Lack of leadership in open source results in source-avail... by jeena on Saturday June 01, 2019 @05:21PM (#20071771)
I don't agree. Open Source has always been about making money. What you might mean is Free Software, which is quite different from a philosophical point of view.
Re:Lack of leadership in open source results in source-avail... by quickthrower2 on Saturday June 01, 2019 @06:52PM (#20072241)
Open source isn’t particularly about making money. The making money is orthogonal and potentially harder if the source is available with a permissive license. Free software is about freedom of the user to make copies and distribute the source code and again money is orthogonal.

But I think in practice both open source and free software are hard to monitise. Often the open source software is a marketing platform for a managed service ala “we made it were the experts let us host it for you”

Re:Lack of leadership in open source results in source-avail... by jeena on Sunday June 02, 2019 @10:24AM (#20075632)
I still disagree, open source from the start was designed with companies (and it's developers) in mind and companies are particularly about making money. It's about the underlying values, open source is about making development easier, cheaper, etc.

Btw. I'm not comparing open- vs. closed-source but open-source-software vs. free-software.

Re:Lack of leadership in open source results in source-avail... by quickthrower2 on Sunday June 02, 2019 @05:39PM (#20078443)
I haven't read up on the origins of OSS, so I can't really comment on why it was designed. I will at some point read up on it more.

I agree Open Source & Non-Free (as per R.M.S.) would be much more commercially useful than Free in a lot of circumstances, because if I pay $1000 for some Free as in Speech software I can then go and sell it to your competitors for $10.

The only way I can think that this is not business-destroying if said software is so tricky to set up that it only makes sense to buy it from the original vendor who will set it up for you in the price - in which case that probably breaks the spirit of free software.

Re:Lack of leadership in open source results in source-avail... by wolco on Saturday June 01, 2019 @07:03PM (#20072309)
Open source has been about protecting open software going forward.
Re:Lack of leadership in open source results in source-avail... by jeena on Sunday June 02, 2019 @10:17AM (#20075596)
That is simply not true with permissive licenses like MIT, BSD, Apache, etc. which emerged out or got embraced of the Open Source movement.

The Free Software movement on the other hand created licenses which try to prevent the kind of behavior and thus are protecting the open software going forward.