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Re:Metadata is the biggest little problem plaguing the music... by aston on Saturday June 01, 2019 @04:20PM (#20071426)
This is like when you walk into a super complicated legacy code base and immediately have the one magic architectural change that will simplify everything...once you rewrite it from the ground up.

The music metadata situation is pretty bad, but the source of the problem is not really carelessness or greed or avoidance of responsibility (although those are all true). The true source of music metadata complication is the insanely complex copyright regime that music operates under. It's a legacy codebase about a century in the making that is constantly being patched up by congress, mostly by trying to change who is being protected from whom. (Among the folks favored at different times: labels, publishing companies, performing artists, song writing artists, radio stations, streaming music services, live venues, ...).

Perfect compliance with these laws is effectively impossible, so everyone is just doing the best they can. And any attempts congress makes to change how things work end up being gigantic legal battles because it's a zero-sum game and the more money in the "right" hands (e.g. these artists being ripped off) is less money in the other "right" hands (e.g. the unprofitable streaming service we all love).

Re:Metadata is the biggest little problem plaguing the music... by tialaramex on Sunday June 02, 2019 @04:13AM (#20074199)
"Old Town Road" is a useful modern reference for what we could have in a world without Copyright. That sample behind everything is from 34 Ghosts IV, one of the tracks in Nine Inch Nails' Ghosts I-IV album.

Strictly just pasting it into a song and selling it wasn't legal (presumably after this went viral somebody paid Trent Reznor a bunch of money and put his name in the metadata to avoid nasty legal consequences) but everything up until selling it was legal, all the raw PCM data you'd want to take the samples apart without painfully cutting it out of the entire Ghosts recording was uploaded with the Ghosts I-IV album as CC-NC-BY. This is how our culture was _supposed_ to work if we weren't still trying to find ways to put more money in The Man's pocket.

Re:Metadata is the biggest little problem plaguing the music... by SomeOldThrow on Sunday June 02, 2019 @05:28AM (#20074401)
Meanwhile, Lou Reed owned 100% of “Can I Kick It?” royalties. So much good art doesn’t get put out because of greed.
Re:Metadata is the biggest little problem plaguing the music... by kasey_junk on Monday June 03, 2019 @10:14PM (#20091145)
Wait are you using the “Can I Kick It” analogy to argue in favor or against greed stopping art?

Because that example is a really weird grey area. The label didn’t clear one of the most obvious samples of all time. The original artist did not prevent them from releasing the derived work, but Tribe didn’t get paid for one of their classics.

I’m not sure what to think of that story.

Re:Metadata is the biggest little problem plaguing the music... by SomeOldThrow on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @01:43AM (#20092235)
Honestly I'm rather against needing to clear samples at all. I think the art should come before any concern that it would put someone into debt via a lawsuit—it should never result in making no money off it when the value is clearly in the product of the sample + performance.